Part One: Peter Thiel and the Anti-Christ
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welcome back to behind the bastards a podcast where robert evans is still waking up still kind of hung over uh which i know i've introduced like a third of our episodes that way and it might lead some of you to wonder does robert have a problem and the answer to that question is no i have a solution sophie how are you doing today Uh, I'm in pain, but my best friend's here, so... That's a win. And you, my other best friend. I have two. I have two. You're also my best friend. It's okay. I know where I stand. I know where I stand. Yeah. Sarah Marshall, welcome to the show. Hello, Robert. A pyramid is the strongest shape. Or, well, I guess a triangle. That's right. But a pyramid, if you're in marketing. Um, I... Sophie, I'm so happy to be here with you, my legend, my queen.
Thank you. And Robert, you, a guy who is also here. I'm just kidding. Thank you. You're also a legend. I think of you every time I see a goat. Every time you see a goat. Okay. That's good, because there's a lot of those out there. You and Sophie were talking about your beautiful friendship, and it made me think about the differences between deep male and deep female friendships, because... When I was thinking back to my stories with my best friend, it's all the different times that either I puked on Lenny or Lenny puked on me. I have one of those stories, but only one. Well, no, I have two. I have two. Anyway. Yeah, that's good. That's a good number. That's a good start. Yeah. I mean, what do you think that you're kind of...
The stuff of your intimacy with your male friends is about. I don't know. You know, honestly, I think a big part of it's just male or female friends. It's just that kind of that kind of bone deep trust where you feel as comfortable with another person as you do, like feeling alone on your couch. I would say that's about the highest level of intimacy in or out of a romantic relationship that exists. Just to say, Robert, I would love to puke on you. Thank you, Sophie. That's very sweet. It will happen one day. You guys just keep putting in your hours. I've avoided puking on you for the same reason. I think I've puked on more people than the average person. The most at once was like nine. Wow. The most at once.
I'm proud of that. It took some work. It took some work and elevation. I like to stay in and, you know, watch the Drew Carey show. So I don't get the opportunity as much. It's a great shame. Yeah. You know, now that you think of it, I've never puked on someone while watching the Drew Carey show. So there may be a causative effect. Speaking of great shows, I would like Sarah to plug her new show for our audience. I have a show to plug. And Sophie, you have been such a help to me in my show advertising tour. Going hither and yon, ringing my cowbell, telling people about my new show, which is called The Devil You Know. It's from CBC Podcasts. It features such iconic performances as our dear friend Jamie Loftus performing the book Michelle Remembers.
Oh, my God. Yeah. That's a win. That just needed to happen. And now it's happened. And it's also, you know, an attempt to kind of tell the story of the satanic panic and its initial spread. In the 80s, it's sort of long shadow in the 90s and how it came back in a way that suggests it never went away in the present day by talking to individual people whose lives were dramatically affected and often, you know, pretty much destroyed by it. And yet, it's also, I think, not that depressing. Yeah. I really want to emphasize that. Yeah. Yeah, I've had an argument with a friend about like whether or not because his argument was that Kissinger's Diplomacy was the book that you needed to read in order to really understand like American statesmanship.
And I was like, no, it's Michelle Remembers. That's the book you need to read if you want to understand how politics works in this country. You know, you said American, and I was like, psychopaths. No, okay, weird, I thought. I think that's true, and it stands to reason that the book that explains America is Canadian. Yeah, yeah.
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