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Premier League gameweek 30 preview | Football…Only Bettor

31 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Premier League is back following the international break and FA Cup quarter-finals with some big games in store! There are ramifications at the t...

Bournemouth v Man City preview | Football… Only Bettor

28 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Manchester City remain firm favourites to lift the FA Cup, but there’s value to be had in the remaining quarter final participants. The Citizens tra...

Lattam Is A Lincoln Winner | Racing…Only Bettor

27 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Lincoln marks the return of the turf flat season and our team of intrepid tipsters are excited by the prospect of not twig hopping this weekend. ...

FA Cup quarter final preview | Football… Only Bettor

27 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It’s the FA Cup quarter final stage and the lads have their eyes on Carlos Baleba as Brighton host Nottingham Forest. Also stay tuned for a fantasti...

The IPL Betting Hub | Cricket...Only Bettor

25 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Sam Collins, Paul Krishnamurty and Richard Mann have all they key IPL betting pointers. They have best bets for three games: Rajasthan v...

A Red Letter Day | Weighed-In

24 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Not much on the Racing front last weekend but one filly did catch Brendan's eye at Naas on Sunday. Still, plenty to talk about with the new British Ra...

A Blake Bobble Head | Racing…Only Bettor

20 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

9 live ITV races across 3 tracks means the Racing Only Bettor crew are a busy bunch this weekend. Kev and Daryl will be skipping through the naps mead...

Cheltenham Festival 2025 De-brief | Cheltenham...Only Bettor

18 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their 2025 Cheltenham Festival de-brief with Natalie Green as host and she is joined by the usual suspect...

Ultimate Betting Guide to IPL Part 3: All the winners revealed

18 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Sam Collins, Paul Krishnamurty and Richard Mann give you the best bets for the outright market, top batsman and bowler markets plus a mass...

The Festival wrap-up ft. 10/10 Cheltenham Hurdle | Weighed-In

17 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Host Vanessa Ryle is joined by Weighed-In regulars Kevin Blake, Brendan Duke and Callum Helliwell to review the highs and lows of the four-day Chelt...

Racing...Only Bettor | A National Win Can Change Things

14 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Midlands National day and the teams energy levels are high after an extraordinary 4 days at the Festival. They all land on the same horse in the Utt...

EFL Cup final preview | Football...Only Bettor

14 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The EFL Cup final between Liverpool and Newcastle takes centre stage on Sunday afternoon as Eddie Howe’s side bit to end their 70-year wait for silv...

Nottingham Forest's top four value | Football...Only Bettor

13 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Nottingham Forest have 10 games to make their Champions League dreams become a reality, starting with a trip to relegation-threatened Ipswich on Satur...

Cheltenham Tips Day 4 - If Banbridge wins the Gold Cup.... | Racing…Only Bettor

13 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It's Cheltenham Gold Cup day and all eyes are on Galopin Des Champs to see if he can win a third Gold Cup. Kev has a very strong fancy in the County...

Cheltenham Tips Day 3 - Everyone's against Fact To File | Racing…Only Bettor

12 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The penultimate day of the Festival and it's another cracking card on Thursday. Daryl is very sweet on a massive priced runner in the 'Plate' at 4.4...

IPL team guide part 2: The Title Contenders | Cricket...Only Bettor

11 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Paul Krishnamurty and Richard Mann have all the angles, stats and strategies for the five teams rated most likely for glory in IPL: Chenna...

Cheltenham Tips Day 2 - I've Found A Fifty | Racing…Only Bettor

11 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Day 2 of the 4-day festival and the Queen Mum Champion Chase takes centre stage. Kev is taking a swing with Found A Fifty while both Dan and Daryl are...

Champions League Round of 16 Second Leg | Football…Only Bettor

10 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Liverpool have a one-goal advantage as they welcome PSG to Anfield for the Round of 16 second leg despite the French champions having numerous opportu...

Cheltenham Tips Day 1 - Constitution Thrill | Racing…Only Bettor

09 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It's show time and the Racing Only Bettor team have you completely covered for the 4-day Cheltenham Festival. Kopek Des Bordes is a very warm order in...

Will Man United’s struggles continue? | Football…Only Bettor

07 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Man United host Arsenal on Super Sunday looking to win back-to-back Premier League games for the first time this season. Ruben Amorim has had a stutt...

Racing...Only Bettor Cheltenham Preview 2025

06 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Vanessa Ryle hosts the Racing...Only Bettor Cheltenham Preview with Daryl Carter, Dan Barber and Barry Orr here to look ahead to the greatest four day...

Peter In | Racing...Only Bettor

06 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Our last pod before Cheltenham and what a cracking Betfair sponsored card we have at Sandown. Top trader, Ryan Mccue joins the team to take you throug...

The Premier League European race | Football…Only Bettor

06 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The race for Champions League football is well and truly heating up in the Premier League as our top-tipping team of Kevin Hatchard, Mark O’Haire, M...

IPL team guide part 1: The Bottom 5 | Cricket...Only Bettor

04 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Paul Krishnamurty and Richard Mann have all the angles, stats and strategies for the bottom 5 in the IPL betting: Lucknow Super Giants, ...

Cheltenham Festival 2025 Best Bets | Cheltenham...Only Bettor | Ep 15

03 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their 15th and final episode before the Festival with Natalie Green as host and she is joined by the usua...

Wood Whooo | Weighed-In

03 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The last Weighed-In before the big show that's the Cheltenham Festival. It's handicap fancies from the team with Wodhooh featuring heavily for Callum ...

Champions League Round of 16 Preview | Football…Only Bettor

03 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Liverpool’s reward for winning the League Phase is a testing tie against PSG as they head to Paris for the first leg of the Round of 16. There is p...

More Messi Magic | Football…Only Bettor

28 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Man Utd have been a bit of a Jekyll and Hyde team but the FA Cup could prove again to be a season saver. But can they get over the line against Lewis ...

I'll Tellherthename | Racing...Only Bettor

27 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Kelso's 'Morebattle' is the centre piece of 10 live races on ITV this Saturday, with Newbury and Doncaster completing the line up. Dan and Daryl land...

Brighton for the FA Cup | Football…Only Bettor

27 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It’s a jam-packed Saturday show with FA Cup, Championship and more all previewed by Kevin Hatchard, Lewis Jones, Mark O’Haire and Mark Stinchcombe...

Handicaps Special | Cheltenham...Only Bettor | Ep 14

26 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their 14th episode with Natalie Green as host and she is joined by the usual suspects of Betfair’s Dary...

Can anyone stop India in Dubai? | Cricket...Only Bettor

25 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Paul Krishnamurty, Richard Mann and Sam Collins have the best bets and angles for four Champions Trophy matches, including England v Afgha...

Premier League matchday 27 preview | Football…Only Bettor

24 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Liverpool have extended their lead at the top of the Premier League and now face a dress rehearsal for the Carabao Cup final when Newcastle arrive in ...

You couldn’t pay me in diamonds | Weighed-In

24 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

No Callum this week but Kev and the Duke are back in action following trips to Saudi and Naas respectively. Jade Du Grugy in the Mares, Nick Rockett f...

Man City v Liverpool preview | Football...Only Bettor

21 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The biggest game of the weekend takes place at the Etihad as Man City host Liverpool in what could prove pivotal in not only the title race but the Ci...

I Like The Way You Are Thinking | Racing...Only Bettor

20 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

A cracking Kempton card, with a sprinkling of Southwell, and the stamina test that’s the Eider make up ITV’s Saturday offering. Dan and Darly ar...

The impossible job | Football...Only Bettor

20 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Everton boss David Moyes will be relishing the opportunity to face his former team Man United at the weekend as his superb start to life back at Goodi...

Just back winners | Cheltenham...Only Bettor | Ep 13

19 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their 13th episode with Natalie Green as host and she is joined by the usual suspects of Betfair’s Dary...

The ultimate betting guide to the Champions Trophy | Cricket... Only Bettor

18 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Paul Krishnamurthy, Sam Collins and Richard Mann name the winner of the Champions Trophy and the runner-up. Plus every team analysed, th...

Champions League play-off second leg preview | Football…Only Bettor

17 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Man City have to overturn a one-goal deficit when they head to Madrid on Wednesday if they are to keep their Champions League status intact. Kevin Ha...

She loves a Pertemps mention | Weighed-In

17 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

A dark shadow has been cast over the horse racing community with the sad news of Michael O’Sullivan’s passing. A great jockey and an even nicer hu...

Liverpool’s title-defining games | Football…Only Bettor

14 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Liverpool suffered a late blow in the Merseyside derby in midweek to draw 2-2 with rivals Everton, with a great importance now placed on bouncing back...

Apples Away | Racing…Only Bettor

13 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Three tracks, nice races, and a decent renewal of the G1 Betfair Ascot Chase is all in store for terrestrial TV viewers this weekend. Emmet Mullins se...

Alexander the Great Isak! | Football…Only Bettor

13 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

After Man City’s most recent collapse against Real Madrid, they face high-flying Newcastle in what could prove to be a huge game in the race for top...

Richard Hoiles with a 50/1 punt | Cheltenham Only...Bettor | Ep 12

12 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their 12th episode with James Mackie filling in for Natalie Green as host and he is joined by the usual s...

The Champions Trophy warm up | Cricket... Only Bettor

11 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Paul Krishnamurty and Richard Mann discuss the Champions Trophy outright and key pointers. Plus the best bets for 3 ODI as Sri Lanka host ...

Champions League play-off preview | Football...Only Bettor

10 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Champions League round of 32 play-off first legs include a heck of a showdown between Man City and Real Madrid, and the team can’t wait to get s...

Sir Ginoooo | Weighed-In

10 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The dreadful news about Sir Gino broke as the show was being recorded so the team give their reaction and a look at the revised Arkle betting. The wee...

Plymouth to produce FA Cup magic? | Football…Only Bettor

07 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Arne Slot’s Liverpool head to Plymouth in-between season-defining League Cup and Merseyside derby matches, but will these ease through to the fifth ...

Joy for Joyeuse | Racing…Only Bettor

06 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The team are in top form ahead of a quality weekend of action from Newbury and Warwick. Both Kev and Daryl land on the same fancy in the big handicap ...

Fulham the FA Cup contenders? | Football…Only Bettor

06 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The FA Cup fourth round kicks off this weekend as Manchester City head to Leyton Orient hoping to avoid becoming another cupset story! Betfair trader ...

Super Bowl 59 Preview | NFL...Only Bettor

05 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Super Bowl is here, after 272 regular-season games and three rounds of playoffs, the NFL's championship matchup is finally upon us and it could ...

A hat-trick of Internationals | Cricket...Only Bettor

04 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Paul Krishnamurty and Sam Collins have all the unmissable data, angles and best bets for the SAT20 and IlT20 finals plus Sri Lanka v Austr...

DRF, Daryl Jacob and Galopin Des Champs | Cheltenham...Only Bettor | Ep 11

04 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their 11th episode with Natalie Green as host and she is joined by the usual suspects of Betfair’s Dary...

Galopin is a Champ – Week 4 of Footsteps To The Festival | Weighed-In

03 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The weekend belonged to Willie Mullins and Galopin Des Champs. A full review of Sandown and the Dublin Racing Festival. Plus week 4 of Footsteps To Th...

Lossie Out? | Racing…Only Bettor

31 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sunday, and the ITV action is focused on 4 races from day 2 of the Dublin Racing Festival, plus 4 from Musselburgh. Kev and Dan land on an Irish runne...

Gabriel v Erling Haaland | Football…Only Bettor

31 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The battle between Arsenal and Man City renews on Sunday afternoon, so too does the rivalry between Gabriel and Erling Haaland. The Football…Only B...

“What’s your maximum Maxwell stake?” | Racing…Only Bettor

30 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

2 countries, 3 tracks and 9 live ITV races on Saturday. It’s a cracking renewal of the ‘Scilly Isle’ and the price sensitive team are keen on a ...

Can Liverpool stop brilliant Bournemouth? | Football…Only Bettor

30 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

High-flying Bournemouth welcome league leaders Liverpool to the Vitality Stadium on Saturday afternoon looking to build on their incredibly impressive...

Cheltenham Trials Day de-brief | Cheltenham...Only Bettor | Ep 10

29 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their 10th episode with Natalie Green as host and she is joined by the usual suspects of Betfair’s Dary...

Champions League Matchday 8 Preview | Football…Only Bettor

27 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The League Phase in the Champions League concludes on Wednesday night with all 18 matches taking place at the same time, with plenty of permutations a...

Brace yourself Peter Savill - Week 3 of Footsteps to the Festival | Weighed-In

27 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It’s week 3 of Footsteps to the Festival and the team tackle the Stayers, Ryanair and Mares Novice Hurdle. No surprise that Kev is firmly in the Hom...

Dr Tottenham’s next patient | Football…Only Bettor

24 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Next up in Dr Tottenham’s office are Ruud van Nistelrooy’s Leicester and despite the away sides lowly position in the Premier League, there is equ...

Cheltenham & Doncaster Preview | Racing…Only Bettor

23 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

A fantastic weekend of Racing on ITV with 9 live races from Doncaster and Cheltenham. A completely free bet on horse racing multiples is the Betfair s...

Man City’s fall from grace | Football…Only Bettor

23 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

With Man City on the cusp of being eliminated from the Champions League, attention briefly turns back to the Premier League before their must-win game...

How to play a runfest | Cricket...Only Bettor

22 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Paul Krishnamurty and Richard Mann decipher India v England in Kolkata and how best to make use of stats which point to big runs. There’...

AFC & NFC Championship Previews | NFL...Only Bettor

22 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

And then there were four. Commanders @ Lions Bills @ Chiefs Who is going to the Superbowl? Kieran O Connor, John Balfe, Mike Carlson and trader Em...

Is Lulamba an option for the Supreme? | Cheltenham...Only Bettor | Ep 9

21 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their ninth episode with Natalie Green as host and she is joined by the ever-present Dan Barber. Unfortu...

Champions League Matchday 7 Preview | Football…Only Bettor

20 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Two gameweeks remain of the League Phase in the Champions League with PSG v Man City the pick of matchday seven, and the loser edging closer to an unl...

Hendo hasn’t been windy – Footsteps To The Festival Week 2 | Weighed-In

20 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Weekend fallout and reaction to winter millions weekend. Jonbon was the star performance, but Protektorat was a close second. The Jockey’s Cup, Dan ...

Nottingham Forest's European dream | Football...Only Bettor

17 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Nottingham Forest’s fairytale season has showed no sign of slowing up as they face rock-bottom Southampton looking to stretch their unbeaten run to ...

I’m against Kargese - The Winter Millions Saturday | Racing…Only Bettor

17 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Day two of the ‘winter millions’ and Ascot plays host to an fascinating renewal of the Clarence House chase. Can the 11-year-old, Energumene plant...

The Winter Millions Friday | Racing...Only Bettor

16 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It’s day one of the ‘winter millions’ extravaganza and the team tackle a top card on Friday at Windsor. The favourite, Caldwell Potter, is a po...

The Tapas Tipster | Football…Only Bettor

16 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Arsenal closed the gap to league leaders Liverpool with a victory against rivals Tottenham in midweek and will be determined to maintain a winning run...

Divisional Round Previews | NFL...Only Bettor

15 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We are down to the final 8 in the race for the Super Bowl. Kieran O Connor is joined by John Balfe, Mike Carlson and for the first time trader Emmet O...

Festival favourites back or lay | Cheltenham...Only Bettor | Ep 8

14 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their eighth episode with Natalie Green as host and she is joined by the usual pairing of Betfair’s own...

Best bets bonanza | Cricket...Only Bettor

14 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Sam Collins, Paul Krishnamurty and Richard Mann return for unmissable betting updates for the three franchise leagues plus best bets for t...

Premier League midweek bets | Football…Only Bettor

13 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It’s third versus first in the Premier League this week as Nottingham Forest host Liverpool looking to continue their fairytale start to the season!...

Salvator Mundi is just delicious – Week 1 of ‘Footsteps To The Festival’ | Weighed-In

13 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It’s week one of ‘Footsteps To The Festival’ and the team take you through their early thoughts on the Champion Hurdle, Arkle and Supreme ante-p...

‘’The Hunters Yarn’’ | Racing…Only Bettor

10 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

With Kempton biting the dust our intrepid team jumped back on to cover 9 of the 11 ITV races this Saturday. with fancies from Ffos Las, Newcastle, Fai...

Arsenal v Man United best bets | Football…Only Bettor

10 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Arsenal host Man United in an eye-catching FA Cup third round meeting. Kevin Hatchard, Mark Stinchcombe and JimmyThePunt discuss their best bets for t...

Annsam third time out | Racing…Only Bettor

09 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The weather is playing havoc with National Hunt racing this weekend, so, at the time of recording, the intrepid team have just 3 races from Kempton to...

FA Cup Third Round Preview | Football…Only Bettor

09 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The FA Cup third round begins on Thursday night and the Football…Only Bettor are hoping for some more memorable upsets in the competition! Chelsea a...

The Playoffs Begin | NFL...Only Bettor

08 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Playoffs are here. Kieran O Connor is joined by the dynamic duo of John Balfe and Mike Carlson to chat through Wildcard weekend and a look at the ...

The ultimate betting guide to the SAT20 | Cricket...Only Bettor

07 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ed Hawkins, Paul Krishnamurty and Richard Mann have the unmissable guide to the SAT20 with every team analysed, ranked for batting and bowling power a...

Trader in the hot seat | Cheltenham…Only Bettor | Ep 7

07 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their seventh episode with Natalie Green as host and she is joined by the usual pairing of Betfair’s ow...

A special moment courtesy of Serpentine | Weighed-In

06 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The team are fresh and ready for the first show of the new year. Gordon Elliott and his novice hurdler's, Willies world, Paul Byrne the broker and Dar...

Liverpool v Man United Best Bets | Football…Only Bettor

03 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

League leaders Liverpool take on rivals Man United in the feature game on Sunday with many, including the Football..Only Bettor panel, expecting a one...

“It’s such a big price!” | Football…Only Bettor

02 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

New Year, same brilliant tips in 2025! Football…Only Bettor returns with Host Will Perry, Mark O’Haire, JimmyThePunt and Betfair trader Emmet O’...

New Year’s resolutions | Racing…Only Bettor

02 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Racing Only Bettor team are back for their first show of 2025, looking through the ITV action at Sandown and Wincanton. As usual Vanessa Ryle lead...

Vikings & Lions to battle it out | NFL...Only Bettor

01 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Its the final week of the regular season and still there is lots to play for. The NFL...Only Bettor trio of Kieran O Connor, Mike Carlson and John Bal...

The Christmas De-brief | Cheltenham…Only Bettor | Ep 6

31 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The Cheltenham Only Bettor team are back for their sixth episode with Natalie Green again steering the ship as host and she is joined by the usual pai...

Langer Dan has 10lbs in hand | Racing…Only Bettor

30 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The final Racing Only Bettor of 2024 and the team are in flying form ahead of what promises to be a special New Years Day at Cheltenham. Kev and Daryl...

“She's a certainty to go for the mares hurdle” | Weighed-In

30 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

What a fantastic festive period of National Hunt Racing. Galopin Des Champs, Banbridge, Constitution Hill, Brighterdaysahead and Sir Gino are just som...

Twixmas Tips | Football…Only Bettor

27 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The bumper Christmas fixture list continues and Abi is joined by Mark O’Haire, Mark Stinchcombe and Jimmy the Punt to bring you their best football ...

Galopin Just Wins | Racing…Only Bettor

27 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

A fantastic day of ITV racing with the G1 Challow from Newbury and the Savills Chase at Leopardstown taking centre stage. Kev is very strong on a coup...

Hendo shushing the crowd with Con | Racing…Only Bettor

23 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

After the turkey and ham it's the not so insignificant matter of what wins the King George and will Constitution Hill shut up Lossie Mouth. All the a...

Boxing Day Best Bets | Football…Only Bettor

23 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

After a 35/1 First Goalscorer winner at the weekend, Betfair’s Alex Boyes is back on the panel to preview the Boxing Day action alongside Sky Sports...

Shearer v Blackmore | Christmas Quizzing...Only Bettor

21 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Betfair ambassadors Alan Shearer and Rachael Blackmore go head-to-head in Christmas Quizzing…Only Bettor! Team football (Alan Shearer, Alan McInall...

800/1 Christmas Cracker Double! | Football…Only Bettor

20 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Tottenham welcome Premier League leaders Liverpool on Super Sunday in what the Football…Only Bettor panel have found a particularly hard game to cal...