Claudia Rankine : Triage
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What is Claudia Rankine’s new book *Triage* about and why is it significant?
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Out on paperback now, this Vermont Book Award winner explores the interdependence of animals, as well as of the earth and ourselves. The Salt Stones has been celebrated by MPR's Fresh Air and named a New Yorker Best Book of the Year. Learn more at milkweed.org. I'm particularly excited for today's conversation. I speak at length within the conversation itself about how important my first encounter with Claudia Rankin was in 2014 when we talked about Citizen and American lyric. Little did I know at the time just how important that conversation would be for beginning to develop a politics for the show and more. let alone how it affected my own writing and simply my own thinking as a person. So it's with great pleasure to welcome back Claudia Rankin today to discuss her latest book, Triage.
I didn't think any of her books, honestly, could unseat Don't Let Me Be Lonely as my favorite of her works. But this one definitely has. And I can't wait to hear what everyone thinks as this book and this conversation enter the world. Before we begin, whether you're a new listener or a longtime one, consider transforming yourself into a listener supporter by joining the Between the Covers community. Regardless of your level of support, you will receive resources with each and every conversation of what I discovered while preparing, things we referenced during the conversation, and suggestions of where to go once you're done listening. And there are a ton of other things to choose from, whether the Milkweed Early Reader subscription,
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Good morning and welcome to Between the Covers. I'm David Nayman, your host. Today's guest, poet, essayist, and playwright, Claudia Rankin, first came on the show a few weeks after the publication of her now landmark book Citizen, an American lyric. Little did we know at the time what the future held for this book and also the world it reflected. Yes, ultimately it was. a finalist for the National Book Award, winner of the National Book Critics Circle Award, the Hearst and Wright Legacy Award, and more.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is Claudia Rankine’s new book *Triage* about and why is it significant?
0:00–22:59
2
How did the first encounter with Rankine in 2014 shape the show’s politics?
22:59–40:39
3
What is the ritual of “collapse” and how does it function in *Triage*?
40:39–57:38
4
How does the narrator’s relationship with the theorist illustrate the book’s dialectic?
57:38–1:12:24
5
Why does *Triage* reference Antigone and what does that reveal about its themes?
1:12:24–1:29:37
6
What do the listener‑submitted questions (Kevin, Sarah, etc.) ask about the book’s ideas?
1:29:37–1:45:41
7
How does Rankine envision “giving sanctuary” and the ethics of sheltering refugees?
1:45:41–1:59:31
8
What final thoughts does Rankine leave us with about collapse, agency, and the future?
1:59:31–2:12:53