Supersluts of History: First World War Spy Mata Hari

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Kate Lister 0:00
Do you want even more shocking and scandalous history? Like why the ancient Greek statues had such small manhoods or what went on behind closed doors in the Georgian era? Well sign up to History Hit where you can see me discover the scandalous side of history as well as hundreds of hours of original documentaries plus new releases every week covering everything from prehistoric Scotland to the Treaty of Versailles. Sign up to join me in locations around the world and explore the past. Just visit historyhit.com forward slash subscribe. Hello, my lovely Betwixters. It's me, Kate Lister. Welcome back to Betwixt the Sheets. Hello. How fabulous it is to see you once again, you little historical pervert.
Kate Lister 0:45
Yeah, I know. I know what you really are. I know why you're here. It's why I'm here as well. But before we can go any further together, I do have to tell you, this is an adult podcast spoken by adults to other adults about adult things in an adult way, covering a range of adult subjects, and you should be an adult too. Do you feel safer? I certainly feel safer. Right, let's crack on.
Kate Lister 1:08
It's 1916 and Europe is at war. So I thought, why not a little inter-railing? We're on board a train that's crawling into yet another tedious checkpoint, and the French soldiers are making their way very carefully through the carriages, searching luggages and checking passports. Well, of course they are. We are at war, you know. Well, amongst the passengers sits one of the most famous women in Europe. Actually, one of the most famous women in the world. And it's not me. It's absolutely not me. It's none other than the famous dancer Mata Hari. She's crossed the borders with ease for years, charming aristocrats, diplomats and military officers wherever she goes. I mean, why wouldn't she? She's an absolute stonking hottie.
Kate Lister 1:53
But in a continent gripped by fear and paranoia, with governments obsessed with spies, her beauty, her connections, her freedom of movement and her sexuality no longer look glamorous. They look quite dangerous. But just what is Mata Hari caught up in? Was she really one of the most dangerous spies of the First World War? Really? Or was she just a chick who liked dancing and got caught up with the wrong bloke? I'm ready to find out if you are.
Kate Lister 2:32
Hello and welcome back to Betwixt the Sheets, the history of sex, scandal and society with me, Kate Lister. Today is the third episode in our Little Limited series, which celebrates and explores the so-called super sluts of history. Who called them super sluts? Well, we did. We did. But other people have definitely done that as well. And we wanted to ask, is that a title well-deserved or one fiercely resisted? These are the women who were defined by their sexuality for better or for worse. And in today's episode, we are going back to the height of the First World War to meet the notorious dancer slash spy slash... Rubbish spy, to be completely honest. Mata Hari. Was she really the mastermind secret agent who used her sexuality to gain intelligence like the authorities made her out to be?
Kate Lister 3:33
Or was she a scapegoat for something more sinister? Well, taking us back to the beginning of the 20th century to find out about this remarkable woman is the marvellous author and historian, Professor Julie Wheelwright. Are we ready? Have I whetted your appetites? Well, all right, let's do this. Well, hello and welcome to Betwixt the Sheets. It's only Professor Julie Wheelwright. How are you doing?
Julie Wheelwright 4:02
I'm great, thank you. And I'm, you know, I'm always happy to talk about Mata Hari because she's such an extraordinary and fascinating character.
Kate Lister 4:10
Thank goodness you are, because I'm desperate to know about this woman. This is part of our little mini-series that we have rather wryly titled Super Sluts, the Super Slut edition. Really trying to quest, look at women who have been titled such, or perhaps not in those terms, but pretty damn close, and asking the question, why, who were they, and did they deserve such condemnation? And Mata Hari seems to fit right into that.
Julie Wheelwright 4:37
Yeah, absolutely.

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