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Bitcoin Takeover Podcast

S16 E25: Chandra Duggirala & George Burke on Portal & Making Exchanges Obsolete

18 May 2025

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Chandra Duggirala & George Burke are co-founders of Portal: an ambitious project which aims to replace centralized exchanges with atomic swaps across chains. By using technologies like BitScaler, Portal OS & RAFA AI, Portal is a serious contender. ------------- Time stamps: Introducing Chandra & George (00:01:02) Portal's Mission (00:02:26) Trust Minimization Explained (00:03:32) Evolution of Portal's Technology (00:04:55) Bit Scaler (00:06:08) Removing Trust in Exchanges (00:08:28) AI Integration in Financial Markets (00:09:44) Clarification on Lightning Network (00:11:39) Bit Scaler vs. Lightning Network (00:12:04) Channel Factories Explained (00:15:27) Automated Market Makers Overview (00:18:04) Centralized vs. Decentralized Exchanges (00:20:57) Challenges of Atomic Swaps (00:24:15) Critique of Cross-Chain Solutions (00:25:17) Understanding Cap Structure (00:26:22) Self-Custody in Bitcoin (00:26:57) Toxic Approach to Bitcoin Values (00:28:03) Drivechains Discussion (00:28:20) Does Portal Require Any Soft Forks? (00:29:29) Quantum Security in Bitcoin (00:30:43) Critique of zk Rollups (00:33:10) User Demand in Crypto (00:34:33) Bitcoin as a Settlement Layer (00:35:25) Free Option Problem Explained (00:39:33) Demo of the Product (00:44:45) Launch Timeline for Mainnet (00:51:11) Proprietary Technology Overview (00:52:26) Is the RAFA AI Open Source? (00:54:05) Value Proposition (00:55:22) User Experience and Trust (00:56:16) Market Dynamics (00:58:37) Incentives for Value (01:00:03) Funding Round Speculation (01:00:10) Development Timeline (01:00:37) Mainnet Deployment Expectations (01:01:04) Supported Assets for Portal Swaps (01:01:49) Does Portal Compete with Exchanges? (01:02:19) Investor Relations (01:02:37) Trust Minimization Limits (01:03:37) User Feedback Impact (01:07:45) Operating System Concept (01:09:08) Integration with Other Platforms (01:10:14) Bitcoin as Settlement Layer (01:12:25) Data Storage for Swaps (01:15:10) Independent Chain Functionality (01:15:57) Quantum Security Discussion (01:16:29) Beta Testing Invitation (01:17:38) Roger Ver's Legal Situation (01:18:02) Silicon Valley Meetup Insights (01:21:10) Bitcoin Adoption Trends (01:22:30) Market Strategies and Competition (01:24:00) Bitcoin's Original Purpose (01:24:40) USD on Chain Concept (01:26:40) Community Engagement (01:28:22) Security in Crypto Exchanges (01:29:56) Conference Attendance Strategy (01:30:20)

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