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Change Fatigue and Conversational Failure: How Leaders Can Build Real Momentum | Jeff Wetherhold
22 Aug 2025
In this episode of BizBlend Podcast, host Sana sits down with Jeff Wetherhold to unpack a reality many leaders face but rarely address: change fatigue. Jeff explains why change efforts often fail—not because of poor planning, but because of conversational breakdowns. Drawing from his expertise in behavioral science, change management, and motivational interviewing, Jeff reveals how leaders unintentionally create resistance, why buy-in often backfires, and how true inclusion is a prerequisite for sustainable change. This conversation challenges the “toughen up” approach to change and instead calls for slowing down, listening better, and leveraging agency and intrinsic motivation to drive results. If you’re an entrepreneur, executive, or team leader navigating constant transformation, this episode will give you a grounded framework for making change less exhausting and more human. About the Guest: Jeff Wetherhold is a change management consultant, coach, and founder of MIforHealth, specializing in helping mission-driven organizations navigate complex transitions without losing trust or morale. With experience across healthcare, higher education, and public service, Jeff blends behavioral science, motivational interviewing, and organizational strategy to help leaders create meaningful and lasting change. Key Takeaways: Change fatigue is not just about exhaustion—it’s a failure of conversation. Traditional change management succeeds only about 12% of the time because it focuses on plans, not dialogue. Leaders unintentionally create resistance when they overlook agency and autonomy. “Buy-in” can backfire if it’s treated as top-down compliance instead of genuine engagement. Inclusion is not a “nice-to-have”—it’s a requirement for sustainable change. Motivational interviewing offers powerful tools for opening conversations and reducing resistance. Leaders who share the weight of change with their teams avoid burnout and build stronger results. Intrinsic motivation is a renewable resource—working against it creates fatigue and failure. Effective change means slowing down, listening better, and aligning before moving forward. Connect with Jeff Wetherhold: Website: jeffwetherhold.com Consultancy: https://www.miforhealth.com/ LinkedIn: Jeff Wetherhold Email: PodMatch Host Profile CHECK PODCAST SHOWS & BE A GUEST Tune to all our 19 podcasts: Podcast Network Subscribe To Newsletter: Substack Join Community: Nas.io OUR SERVICES Business Podcast Management Individual Podcast Management Share Your Story With the World STAY TUNED AND FOLLOW US Medium YouTube Instagram Facebook LinkedIn Page LinkedIn Twitter Pinterest SHARE YOUR REVIEW Leave a Google Review Share a Video Testimonial #podmatch #healthymind #bizblend #changemanagement #leadership #wellness #HealthyMindByAvik #consciousleadership #organizationalchange #growthmindset #businesspodcast #podcastlife #personaldevelopment #mindfulness #teamwork #mentalhealthawareness #resilience #businessstrategy #communication #podcasting #newpodcast #selfcare #inspiration #success
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