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Blair & Barker

Off-Day Check-In with Hazel Mae and Ryan Dempster

15 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What insights does Hazel Mae share about the Blue Jays' recent performance?

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All right, welcome back to Blair and Barker. Hey, there's no Jays game tonight, so they can't lose. But they are playing the Boston Red Sox the first of three games tomorrow, so they can't lose there either. Oof. Boston's like 12-22 at home.

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24.588 - 25.128 Jeff Blair

They're not great.

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They're not great.

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25.809 - 26.59 Jeff Blair

But they pitch good.

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But they pitch good. So the Blue Jays have them right where they want them.

Chapter 2: What are the missed opportunities on offense that Hazel highlights?

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Stay confident, Jeff.

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Stay confident. I'm confident. You know me. I'm oozing confidence. Oh, you are. I can smell it. That's not confidence. I know. Incontinence maybe, but not.

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Chapter 3: How does Hazel describe the bullpen's workload during the series?

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Edge of McCain, yeah.

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Chapter 4: What is Ryan Dempster's perspective on the state of the American League?

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Yeah, exactly. We've got tickets to see the Jays and Rangers later on in the show. And Ryan Dempster, co-host of Intentional Talk on MLB Network. On the MLB Network, former MLB pitcher will be along. We're going to talk about, well, we're going to talk about Jacob Mizorowski, 15 strikeout Maddox. It's insane what that dude is doing. And you know what? It's weird.

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When I see guys throwing that hard, I'm probably going to jinx them now. Normally, I have a hard time watching it because I worry that the guy's arm is going to explode. Yeah, me too. I don't with this dude. You don't really? I don't know why. We'll talk to Dempster about that.

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91.874 - 92.856 Jeff Blair

Hope you're right.

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Yeah, I just don't. I have no idea why that is.

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He's good for baseball.

Chapter 5: How should the Blue Jays handle Max Scherzer's future?

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He's great for baseball.

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He is, yeah. He's going to be starting. He's got to be starting. If he doesn't start in the All-Star game, we riot. We take pitch for him.

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Well, Ohtani's been pretty good, too.

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I don't want to see Ohtani. I'm bored of Ohtani. Bored of Ohtani.

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Chapter 6: What challenges does rookie Trey Yesavage face in his first season?

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Do you like?

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Would you rather watch pitch Ohtani or Mizorowski? Ohtani in a Jays unit.

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115.892 - 116.573 Kevin Barker

Well...

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Bring in Hazel May. He is Sportsnet's MLB and Blue Jays reporter. She is. What did I say? He is? Sorry.

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Chapter 7: How do players maintain motivation on slumping teams according to Dempster?

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Jesus. It's early. It is early. It's very early for me. Hello. How are you doing, Hazel? Hey, Hazel. I'm good. You know what's interesting, if you guys don't mind, I've been watching your show because I rarely get the opportunity to do it because we're both kind of working the same hours. But can I just quickly chime in on the Spencer-Miles-Jose Caballero thing you guys were talking about?

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Chapter 8: What makes Jacob Mizorowski's pitching style special?

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So our colleague Shai Davidi and I actually waited for Spencer post-game just to kind of get his take on what was going on because just like many of us, I was kind of confused as to what was happening. And so Miles told us that he understood their – to be some type of rule, unwritten or whatnot, where the batter has to be alert to the pitcher at around eight seconds.

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And so it was funny because Miles said with Caballero, when the clock went down to about 10, he would tap the plate, look quickly at him, and then look back down as if that first look was this fake look. And then Miles said he would see that and he would come set. And then the next thing you know, he looked up and Caballero and the home plate umpire were talking.

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So he was a little confused as to what was happening. He felt that at that point he should have been rewarded a strike. And then what was even more frustrating for Miles was he said, and I didn't get any warm-up pinches because – At one point, Caballero was still at the plate. The home plate umpire was there. Aaron Boone was there. And I think at one point, the crew chiefs joined them.

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So there's four guys at the plate. Miles has no idea what sort of happening or confirmed to be happening. And so he can't even get hot. So he's just standing there for two or three minutes. So that's what he was confused about. And then I asked him, when you went back into the dugout, did you feel like you needed to explain what was going on to Pete and to John?

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And he said, no, he was actually given a heads up. that it was quote-unquote this kind of common knowledge that Caballero would use these kind of delay tactics. And so he sort of understood what was happening at the time, but because there was so much discussion going on, I mean, for a pitcher standing there two, three minutes, it must have felt like 30 minutes to him.

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But he literally thought that the first time Caballero looked at him at 10 seconds, was the time he was coming set. And then Cabrera would quickly look down. So Miles called it this fake look the first time, tapped the plate, and then kind of he's waiting for his head to pop up, but he's already coming set. So that's where all the confusion was.

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And his frustration was so now mentally he's kind of out of sorts. He's not doing anything but just standing there motionless for like three, four minutes. No, it's – yeah, it is as Kevin said. I think we both – I think we all realize that the Yankees – I don't know if I'd say they have a chip in their shoulder as a result of last year, but –

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You know, their general manager did come out and basically say the Blue Jays ruined their entire season last year. And, you know, it's like I'm with Kevin in this. You know, I would have thrown at him. But at the same time, you know, the little devil on my shoulder kind of likes what Caballero did. I kind of enjoy pushing the limits a little bit there to get into the Blue Jays' heads.

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Yeah, Shai and I were discussing this postgame, and I said to Shai, there's something always up when these two face each other. There was a little bit of drama. Like, you remember the Alec Manoa, the Garrett Cole. Like, there's always something. Pete Walker wanting to drop the third base coach, remember? Yes, I remember that.

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