Europese landen nemen stevige stappen voor de verdediging van Oekraïne en zichzelf, nu de VS hun handen van ons af trekken. Maar de regeringscoalitie in Den Haag worstelt met de nieuwe realiteit. Te gast: D66-buitenlandwoordvoerder Jan Paternotte.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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