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Boomer & Gio

Boomer & Evan Talk Carson Benge

08 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What incident occurred in the hallway involving Evan?

0.031 - 21.333 Boomer Esiason

So I get attacked in the hallway by Evan. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I don't want Ben sent down yet. I don't want Ben sent down yet. I said, look. I didn't say he should be sent down today. I just said, how much longer are you going to be patient with the young man to allow him to get the confidence back that he had when the season started coming out of spring training? That's all I said.

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Chapter 2: How does the discussion about player confidence impact team decisions?

21.834 - 38.62 Boomer Esiason

And I said, would I be surprised they want to send him back down to get his confidence back up again? I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to do that. Yeah, but not any time in April. But Evan's like, hey, did you see his last at-bat? I said, all right, so he hit the ball hard and it got caught up in the wind. I mean, that's one at bat.

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39.542 - 58.81 Evan Roberts

Yeah. It's too early to have that discussion. And I think that, as I mentioned, David Stearns loves the guy, wanted him to be a starter for them. He had a great spring. He had a ton of confidence in him. And now it's his first foray into the big leagues. You've got to give him some time.

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58.79 - 81.27 Boomer Esiason

But all I asked, and I did not say, and I specifically told Devin because he gets nuts when it comes to the Mets. I told him, I said, I did not say send him down now. I just said, how much longer are you going to give him before you decide we got to get him back and we got to get his confidence back? Because right now, and maybe that last about yesterday helped him. I don't know.

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81.892 - 94.072 Boomer Esiason

I mean, you know, baseball is a very weird and wacky sport, but I also know that rookies can become overwhelmed when they feel like things aren't going their way and they want to start pressing. And then next thing you know, they can't find their way out of it.

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94.312 - 101.043 Evan Roberts

Yeah. I mean, I think if, like, let's say Juan Soto is out for the full three weeks.

101.384 - 103.427 Boomer Esiason

You got to keep him here for at least that period of time.

103.407 - 123.227 Evan Roberts

Yeah, and then if he's still looking completely overwhelmed, you know, when Soto comes off the IL, maybe that's a discussion you have. But I just don't think anything will happen before that. I just, it's too soon. And by the way, now that they've won four in a row, it also gives a little more freedom.

123.287 - 138.831 Evan Roberts

I mean, if they had gone on an extended losing streak and he wasn't doing anything, you feel like they need to shake things up. But, you know, the offense has been pretty good of late. And you can kind of hide someone who's having a rough start. I mean, for God's sakes, I mean, Francisco Lindor's had a rough start. Rough start, too.

138.851 - 139.613 Boomer Esiason

Yeah, but it's different.

Chapter 3: What factors influence a rookie's performance in the big leagues?

173.779 - 193.293 Boomer Esiason

And they know because they obviously watch these guys every single day. They watch them in batting practice. They watch the videos of the at-bats. They look at where the swing plane is. They look at things that he may be – does he have a hitch in his swing? Is he going after the right pitches? Is he not seeing the ball correctly? Does he not like playing in cold weather? All that kind of stuff.

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193.313 - 220.548 Boomer Esiason

Sure. Does he have a fungus? He may have a fungus. Things like that. When I just thought about the dusty place where you could be getting a fungus spore The hallway that we walk through every day, there is no doubt in my mind that it is laden with fungus spores. But I'm the only one who's got the fungus? You may have walked through something that the rest of us haven't.

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221.449 - 241.188 Evan Roberts

I got this because I was stuck in an airport and on a plane for a very long time. And some germ got into me that started this whole thing. I don't think it's turned into a fungus. I know you really want it to be a fungus, but I feel like it's no fungus, and I'm going to be all right.

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241.528 - 253.824 Evan Roberts

And the best improvement I had, because it's only been slight improvements every day, and some days actually no improvement, but maybe like 1%, 2%, was with the Novage and the Eustacia tube thing.

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253.844 - 254.124 Boomer Esiason

Right.

254.545 - 268.369 Evan Roberts

And that was yesterday. So I'm hoping if I do another round of that, then I'll be all right. Maybe by Friday it might be all right. Or not. And I'll have this for a year. I'll be going to chiropractors and fungal specialists.

269.992 - 297.368 Boomer Esiason

I don't know. You could have caught the cold in the airport. You could have caught the cold on the plane. And then when you got here, you got the fungal support. That was actually one of the best calls we've had in a long time because it really gave me a perspective of what you've been dealing with because everything that that guy said is everything that I've been dealing with listening to you.

298.571 - 333.23 Evan Roberts

There's something very strange about, like you've got a schadenfreude thing going on with you when it comes to your friends and colleagues. That's just odd. It really is. You want to see us miserable. You wanted to send Al to Africa. You wanted to see Jerry die in front of his son and father. You desperately want me to be riddled with fungus. Guy crashes his car.

333.31 - 356.007 Evan Roberts

You were hoping for a headless funeral. There's just something going on. Maybe, I don't know if Eddie has an example of this. I can't remember one off the top of my head, but I gave you a lot of good examples there that you really take joy in the people close to you suffering.

Chapter 4: How do winning streaks affect team dynamics and decision-making?

429.461 - 430.804 Boomer Esiason

What do you do? Do you go back home?

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431.285 - 433.811 Evan Roberts

No. I had this conversation.

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434.493 - 436.838 Boomer Esiason

Especially you went with 24 guys.

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437.039 - 444.977 Evan Roberts

Yeah, and like 18 of them were on the same flight. And I told them, that plane goes down. I am completing the trip.

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445.582 - 447.948 Boomer Esiason

All right, so now we're on the same page.

448.048 - 461.7 Evan Roberts

And I told them ahead of time. So then they misconstrued it in saying, oh, you want the plane to go down? I said, no, I don't want the plane to go down. No way, that'd be terrible. I'm just letting you guys know that if it does, I will be finishing this trip.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of confidence in a player's performance?

461.68 - 479.957 Boomer Esiason

If I've paid too much money, I'm keeping every tee time. We got two threesomes now we can play with. Right, and there's nothing you guys can do about it. And you can't do anything about it. Yes, exactly. I agree 100%. And by the way, if it were me, I would want you guys to finish.

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480.198 - 481.704 Evan Roberts

Yeah. Yeah, of course.

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481.725 - 484.958 Boomer Esiason

I got it. I'm in a hospital. What are you going to do? You come in and hold my hand?

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485.139 - 487.007 Evan Roberts

No. You finish the round.

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487.127 - 488.171 Boomer Esiason

Go do your thing.

488.332 - 488.553 Evan Roberts

Right.

488.613 - 491.907 Boomer Esiason

You spent a lot of money to be here, not to visit me in the hospital. That's right.

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