Chapter 1: Why might 'Fighting Irish' be considered offensive?
It was a few days ago before I left on the trip where I was listening to the warm-up show and Al brought up that he thought at some point somebody might have been offended by the Fighting Irish. How we've seen so many of these different team names go away, you know, obviously with the... Native Americans or the indigenous peoples, a lot of that has gone away in sports.
You know, they the Flying Dutchman went away for Hofstra because of all the Dutch pilots out there that felt like they were being marginalized. And Al thinks that. that the fighting Irish because that stereotype of maybe an Irishman who drinks too much and fights could be offensive and that Notre Dame should, you know, may at some point be forced to change. They're not going to change. No way.
No way. I'm not being serious.
Chapter 2: What historical team names have been changed due to offense?
I know you're not. But I'm just telling you. When you think about the history of that school. Oh, yeah. And what that mascot means. Oh, of course. It's a little leprechaun. Pissed off about something. You'd be pissed off too if you were that little. I don't know if I was a leprechaun. If I was a leprechaun, though, I'd have some sort of magic powers, yes? So I don't know how pissed off I'd be.
I'd be like, listen, it sucks. I'm tiny. But I could do this. There's a pot of gold over here. I got it. You know? Yeah. How did the leprechaun myth become a thing? How did that... I gotta look that up today. I'll do some reading. Some research? Some research on how the... Like, were there little people many years ago in Ireland that were known to be lucky?
Like, if you were a dwarf, you were... It was a sign of luck? Yeah. I mean, maybe that's what it was. Eddie? Well, there's a lot of folk legends in England, UK, British Isles, Scandinavia. Yeah. All over medieval Europe. There's, you know, the Fae folk. Okay. Yep. Our buddy Little Boomer, Scotty texted me. He said he's been big day today. He was huge. He had a huge weekend, too. Oh, he did?
Yeah, he had a huge weekend. This is as big as it gets for him. These couple of weeks here with all the St. Paddy's Day parades and parties and everything else. He's doing great. Let's see. It's a type of solitary fairy or supernatural being in a traditional Irish story. It's typically depicted as small, mischievous old men who are cobblers, shoemakers. Oh, okay. And yeah, there you have it.
So at some point, there was a tiny...
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Chapter 3: What does the leprechaun symbolize in Irish culture?
There was a tiny cobbler who got this leprechaun thing started because somebody back in the day, because we were so stupid back then, learning what the world was about, thought that this little person cobbler had magic powers. Basically said the concept emerged in medieval Irish literature and or oral tradition. Oral tradition? Yeah. Early references appearing around the 18th to 12th centuries.
Eighth to 12th centuries. Like at some point in your life, you start to like, I guess for me, it's been, you know, 43 where I now need to know. Like I just never thought about how did the leprechaun start? I mean, it's just a thing that we have accepted. You know, it's like there's this tiny little person who's there's a pot of gold and it's mischievous cobblers.
And we're just like, yeah, this is this is normal. Let's make a cereal out of it. Shoemakers. Yeah. What do you call the guys who make the horseshoes? Farriers? Is that another one? Yes. Yeah, a little farrier. That's a profession.
Chapter 4: How did the leprechaun myth originate?
That's something completely different. That's a horse thing. Yeah, no, I know it's a horse thing, but I just, like, there's going to be, who's the next great young farrier? You know what I mean? Like, that's a profession I feel like you've got to pass that down in your family or we're going to have no farriers out there.
By the way, you can call our buddy Lee, and he can give us a little heads up on that one. Sure. Joe in Staten Island, what's going on, Joe? I just want you guys to know that leprechauns do exist. In the Italian heritage, my grandmother told me stories about little people that came to visit at night, and you would be able to borrow money off them.
Chapter 5: What role do leprechauns play in Irish folklore?
And if you didn't pay the money back to these little people, these little leprechauns, or in Italian they call them azulejil, the azulejils would get their money's worth by beating you to death. So if you borrowed money off these people, you better pay the little people back. Maybe that's why the leprechauns always had a pot of gold, so they could loan it out to people.
At a very high interest rate, by the way. So the Italian leprechauns are mobsters. I get it. They were just the Leprechaun family, actually. They were just all very tiny. Oh, my God. That's basically what that was, right? He was talking about, like, tiny loan sharks. Yeah. What? Charging 19% interest. Group of dwarf loan sharks running around Staten Island in the 30s. Terry in West Milford.
What's going on, Terry? I mean, I don't know how I'm going to top that, guys. All right. So I know you're only joking about the fighting Irish part. Yeah. But just to give some context why that would not get reversed, Notre Dame was founded by Irish Catholic priests, and they're the ones who came up with the fighting Irish name. Unlike the Native American, you know, mascots who are not Irish,
Made up by Native Americans. This one was actually done by Irish Catholic priests. Yeah, no, of course. And we were just, it was just a commentary on the times. It was kind of funny. I actually do have two friends that are Native American. They're indigenous Americans that hate the fact that all these names are going away. They hate it. Yeah.
Where they... You have, like, they're full-blooded indigenous people? Yes. Really? Yeah. Wow. You have two full-blooded indigenous people's friends. Yes. They live on Long Island. Really? Yeah. Puspatuck? Not really sure where they live. Shinnecock? And one is a daily listener of ours. And they're on the reservation? No, I don't believe he's on the reservation. Oh, okay. All right.
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Chapter 6: How have leprechauns been portrayed in modern media?
I think a lot of the college schools still use the tribe names, though. Seminoles, Chippewas, and Utes. I guess the tribes give them... Permission, yeah. Permission, yeah. I don't know. It's just... I can't tell whether or not he's half-joking... And I don't know whether I had to go back at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a tough spot. It's one of those things.
Where's the line with your indigenous people friend? I mean, I don't know where that line is. But you might as well stay away from it because there's nothing good by crossing it. He is absolutely hilarious. Yeah. I'd like to meet this guy. And a huge biker. Really? Huge biker, yes. Did he make it himself? No, he did not.