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Boomer & Gio

Jets Coordinator Hunt In Shambles

29 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are Jets fans frustrated about regarding the team's decisions?

0.031 - 23.997 Boomer Esiason

Jet fan wants answers. They want to know exactly what the hell their team is doing. And it's really interesting thinking about the amount of defensive coordinators they have talked to and what they ended up with and how they ended up with this guy. And the fact that he's never done this before. And the fact that I guess Aaron Glenn wants to call defensive plays.

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Chapter 2: Who were the defensive coordinators the Jets considered?

24.162 - 46.455 Boomer Esiason

So that means he's bringing in a very strong offensive coordinator. You and I think we know who it is, and everybody else out there thinks we know who it is. But, man, it's like shuffling the chairs on the deck of the Titanic right now. And, I mean, it just looks so unorganized and so bad, and the perception is so... Awful for both teams, the Rangers and the Jets.

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47.057 - 54.726 Boomer Esiason

I mean, it's ridiculous about how things are being perceived and what they look like and how you feel when you're talking about them.

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54.892 - 77.085 Gio

Yeah, but the most concerning thing is you don't think that there's anybody over there who knows what they're doing outside of Darren Muji. And I'm not even sure if he knows what he's doing because he's letting all this happen on his watch. I mean, some of these things that I have heard, it's just insanity. We talked a little bit about this yesterday, but there was some more clarity where...

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77.065 - 99.004 Gio

Wink Martindale is so convinced he's getting the defensive coordinator job. I heard Connor Hughes on with Evan Tiki and Sean yesterday. He's so convinced he's getting the defensive coordinator job. He starts reaching out to coaches. Like you said, the guys you wanted to bring in. Hey, pack your stuff. We're ready to go. We are going to the Jets. We're back in the NFL.

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99.425 - 121.344 Gio

And then Aaron Glenn talks to Wink. Wink gets on like an overnight flight to come here. And then Aaron Glenn tells him, no, I'm calling the defense. What? You can't do that with a veteran coach who's been doing this forever. If you hire Wink Martindale, Wink Martindale's your defensive coordinator. I mean, that's a total, utter insult to a guy like that.

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Reaching out to John Gruden to be an offensive assistant under Aaron

126.188 - 150.357 Gio

Glenn I mean I don't know who actually reached out to John I asked you this I don't know yesterday it was my first question I need to know because if it's Woody Johnson that's there's a whole set of problems there if it's Aaron Glenn there's a set of problems there I mean and then you end up with a guy who was I know he was a wide receivers and secondary coach but he was a wide receivers coach last year within the division

150.539 - 161.891 Gio

Was anybody else talking to this guy to be their defensive coordinator? Or is he just a lackey who's going to stand there and get Aaron Glenn his coffee at 720? Like, I'll get yours!

162.793 - 170.197 Boomer Esiason

No, well, I... I mean, this is really interesting. I mean, it's interesting. It's also frustrating.

Chapter 3: Why is Wink Martindale's hiring controversial?

296.309 - 314.825 Boomer Esiason

And if you don't agree with that and you're the head coach, you're going to end up being like Brian Dayball and having to fire Wink Martindale if he doesn't do what you want him to do. Or he's out on an island or he's going behind the back. And talking to other people within the building saying this is wrong. Now, it's kind of like whistleblower situation. You know what I mean? Yeah.

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315.166 - 339.739 Boomer Esiason

And you just never know. And as I've been told about all of this is that – The thing in Cleveland, Jim Schwartz thought he was getting that job. When he found out that Todd Munkin was getting that job, and Todd Munkin had told the Cleveland brass there, and Jimmy Haslam, hey, look, I'd be more than happy to keep Jim Schwartz as my defense coordinator.

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339.759 - 361.846 Boomer Esiason

Jim Schwartz is like, get the F out of here. I ain't staying here. I'm out of here. This is total BS. He thought he had it. And other coaches that had applied for that job They were saying, we want to keep Jim Schwartz as our defense coordinator. And they were saying, no, I don't want him. And that's why they fell out of those jobs. I don't want Jim Schwartz on my staff. I can't trust him.

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362.727 - 381.072 Boomer Esiason

And the reason I say that is because maybe people like Mike McDaniel or Davis Webb or whoever interviewed for that job had been told either by their agent or by other coaches in the league that you don't want that guy on your staff if you're the head guy. You see what I'm saying? Of course. Especially if you're a first-time head guy. Yeah.

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381.052 - 399.961 Boomer Esiason

The one thing about Todd Munkin, at least he's a little bit older and a little bit more experienced and has been around quite some time, over 20, 30 years in coaching. So at least he knows how to handle people. And I think that's one of his strengths as a coach. So I'm happy for Todd.

400.242 - 414.003 Boomer Esiason

I feel bad for Jackson Dart and the New York Giants because he would have been the perfect offensive coordinator. And now the Giants have got to pivot and they've got to find their own offensive coordinator somewhere out there. And again, I don't know who the Harbaugh Ties are.

Chapter 4: What led to the confusion about Aaron Glenn's role?

414.063 - 426.806 Boomer Esiason

I heard all these different names. Here's the one thing that I don't want for Jackson Dart. The one thing that I do not want for Jackson Dart is I don't want a college play caller. I do not want a college offensive coordinator.

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426.826 - 427.808 Gio

Well, that would be Charlie Weiss Jr.

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427.848 - 446.985 Boomer Esiason

And I have nothing against Charlie Weiss Jr. I have nothing against Charlie Weiss Sr. Love him to death. Great people. Charlie Weiss Jr. did a great job for Ole Miss. Stayed there and took the team through the playoffs. I think he's got the job at LSU now. I think he's down there with Lane Kiffin. I do not want a college play caller.

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447.775 - 455.807 Boomer Esiason

being the first-time offensive coordinator in the NFL with the New York Giants for Jackson Dart.

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Chapter 5: What are the implications of hiring John Gruden?

455.827 - 478.497 Boomer Esiason

I want somebody who knows the NFL, understands the NFL, and maybe Charlie Weiss Jr. does, but I don't want a first-time play caller in the NFL calling plays. I want what Caleb Williams and what Drake May had. Caleb Williams had Ben Johnson. Drake May had Josh McDaniel. And that's exactly the type of guy that I want for Jackson Dart. Todd Munkin would have been that guy.

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478.797 - 494.995 Boomer Esiason

But there are other guys out there that have NFL experience that could call plays and get the best out of Jackson Dart. So, you know, the Giants, I hope they do the right thing and they bring in a professional NFL offensive coordinator under these circumstances.

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495.143 - 507.845 Gio

Yeah, I trust John Harbaugh to make the right decision. This is the exact opposite of the New York Jets, where I don't think anybody over there knows what is going on. I think that John Harbaugh is going to make the perfect decision for Jackson Dart. And you trust him.

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507.865 - 523.59 Gio

It does stink, though, because we expected Todd Munkin to come here and stay here because he never got a head coaching opportunity. And probably the only place he'd ever get that head coaching opportunity would have been in Cleveland because no one wants that job, just like no one really wants to come here to the Jets.

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524.09 - 530.799 Boomer Esiason

But you find out that if you got the job, you were going to inherit Jim Schwartz if they didn't go with Jim Schwartz.

530.819 - 549.768 Gio

Right, and just like I don't blame Tanner Engstrom when he was told that he was going to get demoted and to stay in the organization and say, I'm out of here. Same thing with Jim Schwartz. I don't blame him either. So I don't know how they're going to fix that or if they're going to... They have maybe co-head coaches out there or something stupid because it is the Cleveland Browns.

550.048 - 560.693 Gio

They're capable of anything. But it's just no surprise that the two biggest disasters in the NFL are once again the Cleveland Browns and the New York Jets. It's the same. They never get out of their own way.

560.713 - 569.025 Boomer Esiason

I know it's not fair, and I saw a lot of people questioning the hiring of Todd Munkin. That's not fair either. I mean, he's been around. He's paid his dues. It would be like Lou Anarumo getting a job.

569.045 - 585.65 Gio

Yeah, I mean, it's not the Todd Munkin hire that's the problem. It's leading Jim Schwartz down a path thinking he's getting the job and then telling him he's not getting the job, and now the guy that you wanted to keep is so pissed off at you because of this process and the way that it went that he doesn't want to go.

Chapter 6: How does Frank Reich's loyalty play into the Jets' situation?

792.249 - 796.013 Boomer Esiason

He's like the second coming of Rex Ryan. He's the old school lunatic defensive coach.

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796.033 - 811.592 Gio

And everybody, I mean, a lot of people know who he is. He's never been a head coach. Yeah, well, there's a reason. Yeah, because he's rough around the edges. But to have him fly in And say you're going to be my defensive coordinator just to tell him that I'm calling the defense and I'm running the defense.

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812.593 - 818.982 Gio

There's not a single coach in the NFL outside of Aaron Glenn that would do something like that.

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820.824 - 838.579 Boomer Esiason

You know it. I know it. I can only think of one reason for that. Okay. Yeah. I can only think of one reason for that. One reason for what's going down here. All right.

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841.642 - 857.934 Gio

Well, I'll float an idea to you. Can I float an idea to you? You got your own idea? I do have my own idea. My own idea is that they just fired nine coaches that they have to pay. Right? Yes. Okay. Aaron Glenn is a defensive guy.

858.375 - 858.576 Boomer Esiason

Yeah.

858.596 - 881.261 Gio

So he feels like he could call the defense. You're going to have to pay guys like Wink Martindale and Frank Reich a lot of money. So if you are Aaron Glenn and you go up to Woody Johnson, assuming this is all Aaron Glenn and not Woody Johnson, and you say Wink wants $7 million a year to be a defensive coordinator, Frank wants $10 to be the assistant head coach.

881.402 - 905.427 Gio

First of all, those numbers are way too inflated. But you know what I mean. That it would be an insane amount of money. And then ownership goes, what are you, nuts? You just fired nine guys that we have to pay. And I know there's offset language, but still. And now you want these two guys to come in after we gave you a massive contract? And then Aaron goes, okay. Sorry, Wink.

906.77 - 921.345 Gio

I'm going to call the defense. I'm going to hire this dude from Miami that no one even knew existed. And he's going to have an office, a little closet office next to mine like we have with the sports minutes over here. We get our makeup done. We'll just cram him in there.

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