Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
229. Challenge Accepted: Confronting the Anti-DEI Argument feat. Yolanda Slan
27 May 2025
Go to https://cozyearth.com and use code HUMANHR for 40% off their best-selling sheets, pajamas, towels, and more. And if you get a post-purchase survey? Let them know you heard about Cozy Earth right here.In this conversation, Traci Chernoff and Yolanda Slan delve into the critical topic of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DE&I). Yolanda shares her personal journey and passion for DE&I, stemming from her experiences as a woman of color with a hidden disability. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding DE&I, the importance of understanding diversity in a global context, and the role of bias in hiring practices. Traci and Yolanda emphasize the need to view individuals as unique rather than as part of a group, clarifying the distinction between DE&I and affirmative action, and expanding the definition of DE&I to include various aspects of identity and experience. Their discussion explores the difference between equity and equality, using relatable analogies to illustrate their points. They also stress on the importance of advocating for oneself while also recognizing the meritocracy in hiring practices. This topic challenges the misconceptions surrounding DE&I initiatives and highlights the need for organizations to focus on genuine inclusivity rather than superficial quotas. Their dialogue is filled with humor and insight, making this episode both informative and enjoyable that you wouldn’t want to miss it. Chapters00:00 Introduction to DE&I and Yolanda's Background02:20 Personal Journey and Passion for DE&I04:48 Understanding Diversity in Global Contexts06:44 Misconceptions About DE&I in Business10:48 The Role of Bias in DE&I12:50 Clarifying DE&I vs. Affirmative Action15:20 The Importance of Individuality in DE&I17:19 Expanding the Definition of DE&I18:27 Equity and Inclusion in Practice26:11 Finding the Right Image for DEI Conversations27:39 Understanding Equity vs. Equality30:00 Different Modes of Transportation: The Equity Analogy32:30 Mind Your Business: Advocating for Yourself34:51 Meritocracy in the Workplace37:50 Challenging DEI Practices for ImprovementWe hope you enjoyed this episode with Yolanda Slan. If you found our discussion insightful, we'd like you to take a moment to rate our podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and reach more listeners who are passionate about these topics. You can also leave a review and tell us what you loved or what you'd like to hear more of - we're all ears!Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Plus, leave a comment if you're catching this episode on Spotify or YouTube.About Our Guest: Yolanda Slan is Televerde’s Chief People Officer. She is an experienced human resources and employment leader with a record of success building and enhancing HR programs in both the private and non-profit sectors. She is passionate about diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), and she has a deep understanding of talent management strategies which has enabled her to create a positive impact in all of her past positions.Connect with Yolanda Slan here:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/televerde?goback=%2Ecps_1237136210503_1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/televerde Blog: http://www.televerde.com/blog/ Website: http://www.televerde.com/ Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraciDisclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.
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