Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What sentence ruined a long-time friendship?
Yeah, it just hits way ickier. And unfortunately for our listener Joey, he said that second one drunkenly to his friend Vanessa. And I don't think he added the years ago part. That would make it better, actually. Well, I'm assuming it wasn't that night, Joey, right? No, not that night, no. Oh, okay. Maybe a week before. Still a general term.
Thing is, he doesn't even remember saying it to her, but it has been confirmed by multiple sources. Including her. Yep. Since someone else at that party overheard it and then word got around. So no surprise ever since things between Joey and Vanessa have been very uncomfortable, to say the least. And Joe needs our advice here on how to apologize and walk back what he said to reassure her.
It was just a dumb, drunken slip up. And all he wants is to be your friend. So, Brooke, what do you think Joe should do here? Well, I think right now, Joe, we need to concentrate on what you didn't do. What didn't I do? Okay, what you didn't do is you didn't inappropriately make a move. You didn't pressure her to go out with you. You didn't try to kiss her. Like, you respect her as a friend.
You respect your boundaries. And you just made a really dumb, embarrassing statement. Very well said. You're right. I don't think I did any of those things. I would love it if you would have said I didn't do it. He did all three. I thought you said you were tipsy. Yeah, it is a good idea to be like, well, I could have kissed you, but I didn't do that.
Chapter 3: What was the listener's reaction to his mistake?
So kudos to me. That doesn't sound great. Good advice, Brooke. Jose, what do you think? Well, we all had a group cringe when you just said the word fantasize. And I think you should try to use the word fantasize in other areas of your life. Will you try to normalize it? Thank you, Brooke. Like, for example, you say, hey, do you have any lunch plans?
Because I've been fantasizing about this salad all week long. It's just a verb you use all the time.
Chapter 4: How did the listener end up on the show for help?
Yeah, what's the big deal? I hate that I love this advice. Joey, what do you think? If I'm being honest, I kind of feel like the more I use that word, the more it's just going to make her think about me saying it. Oh, man, I've been fantasizing about that advice for like two songs. Come on, man. I might never use the word fantasize ever again. Okay.
Maybe that's a promise you can give to Vanessa if we're able to get her on the phone here. So I'm going to dial her number. You have that advice in your back pocket, but hopefully she picks up and we'll let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call. You feel ready? I think so. All right. Oh, boy. We're here to back you up if you need us, but I'm dialing the number right now. Here we go. Hello?
Hey, Vanessa, it's Joey. Okay, what are you doing? I'm calling you because I don't want things to be awkward between us. I mean, it is, though. And I don't even know if we should be talking right now. Listen, we've been friends a long time and it was a dumb thing to say, but it was just one dumb thing. It was just words. I didn't try to kiss you. I didn't do anything inappropriately.
I didn't make a move or anything like that. It was just a dumb thing to say. And just by the way, I didn't do any of those things, right? Okay. No, no. Thank God you didn't. Okay, well, you don't have to go overboard about it. I mean, that would have definitely crossed an even bigger line. Well, are you hearing what I'm saying? I really feel bad about it. I mean, I'm losing sleep over here.
It's not good. Okay. Look, just really did not know what to say in that moment. And it really caught me off guard, especially because I just got out of a relationship. It just wasn't really something I was prepared to hear. I don't want to picture you picturing me that way and, you know, put yourself in my shoes here.
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Chapter 5: What embarrassing thing did the listener admit to saying?
I mean, I'm, I'm trying to, that's why I'm, I'm trying to get things back to how they were and saying I'm sorry about saying such a dumb thing. I know, but not only did I just get out of a relationship, but, I mean, come on, we're also related. What? Related? Yeah, yeah, she's my stepsister. Oh, wow. That is a big, important word. Wait, that doesn't make it better. It makes it okay.
No, it doesn't. It's okay to fantasize about your steps. And it really depends on when the parents got married. Oh, God. Don't justify that. Vanessa, I'm sorry. Are you there? What is happening right now? I am so confused. We're figuring that out. Yeah, my co-hosts are justifying why it's okay to fantasize about your step-siblings, but what we're doing is called an awkward Tuesday phone call.
Oh, my God. And it's really awkward. Joe did not tell us that you were his stepsister. No. Not at all. I didn't think that it was important to mention to you guys. You know, it's not like we live together. She didn't become part of the family until I was already out of the house. Oh, see? Better. It would have been a good piece of information for us to have going into this call.
No wonder she's weirded out. Yeah, honestly, that's a very important piece of info. But it also makes sense why your parents are attracted to each other. Brooke. You're the one standing up. You're from Idaho, so I get it. We already justified it a little. He was an adult when his dad or mom married the other person. I don't know. There's no excuse in my mind, but...
This is probably the most uncomfortable phone call I have ever had. My advice to him was almost like, why don't you pursue it? So now I'm glad. I mean, I was really going back and forth on apology. And it still hasn't changed. She still has that stance. I don't. I don't. Oh, my God. Joey. Hey, I'm with Brooke. It's not that weird to just think it.
It's weird to act on it, maybe, but not to just think it. It's weird to talk about it, too. I don't know. I've never had step-siblings, but if I got a step-brother as an adult, I mean. Yeah, look out. Exactly. We need to get back to the problem at hand. The whole reason that we made this call, Vanessa, is because Joey feels terrible about what he said. He does not believe that. Right, Joe?
Yes, I believed it once, but not anymore. Okay.
he's not interested in you romantically in any way at this point in time and he really shouldn't be when he said that I was kind of impressed a man said that on the phone but now it's a very low bar that we're trying to clear Joey talk to her please this is a huge thing to leave out I just I didn't think it was an important detail I thought the main thing was just trying to tell you that I'm sorry and I never should have said it and I will never say it again can you forgive me
I mean, yeah, Jolie, like, I forgive you. You know, I'm not going to completely cut you out of my life or anything. I just... I think I just need like a minute, a long minute to really process this whole situation. Brother ick is a different level of ick. Yeah, yeah. So I totally get it. It's a process.
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