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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: Champagne and Shackles

13 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband.

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Dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves. So I'm like delusionally proud of my chart. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast.

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This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Watch live on Fox Thursday, March 26th at 8, 7 central. And listen on iHeartRadio stations across America and the free iHeart app. Hey, welcome to it. It's Friday, and we do have a podcast for you. Here it is. Yes, we do. This second date classic might inspire your next party theme. Oh, really? It could, but you need to buy handcuffs in bulk, I think. Wait a minute.

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I don't know if I like this theme. I think it's through, for sure. Stick around for that, but first, we've got comments. Yeah, Jess commented on an episode from the other day and said, this made me cringe so much, I had to stop listening for a few hours and come back to finish. That's bad. I think it's sadistic that you came back and finished. What the heck?

Chapter 2: What unique theme does the listener's second date involve?

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Yeah. Yeah, there was three movies. I love how Jeff and Alexis immediately know. I know. How have you not seen them? The thing is... You and Jeff watch them together. There's 150 parts of Grey by the time you get to that. I have no complaints. It wasn't that, though. It turns out, in this case, it was just a champagne and shackles party. Yeah!

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Where our listener Mandy was bound together with a guy that she met on Hinge named Jack. And again, if you're just tuning in, those things work like this. You and your date have to finish off an entire bottle of champagne before you can unlock from each other. And I think it was a Magnum bottle, like a big boy. Yeah, in this case it was. I mean, it's a headache the next day. For sure.

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The idea is college-esque for sure. And Alexis, do you miss those college parties hearing this back or do you just not remember? Obviously. I'm about to go host one this weekend. I'm so inspired. The weird part of the night that happened, though, was when Mandy had to use the restroom before they were able to finish their champagne. So Jack had to tag along for that ride.

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They got through it, but might not be the best first impression for a first date. Because he chugged the rest of the bottle right afterwards and then ditched her. Yeah. Mandy, is that a good description of what happened? Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. I mean, the thing is, is like you want to do a regular date with this guy, right? Like the first one was fun and exciting.

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And now you got to see if there's like truly a connection. Totally. Well, I guess we'll just see what he has to say. And hopefully he's not strapped to another woman when we call him. Oh, that would be a problem. Who's going to answer the phone in that case? If we hear a stream, hang up right away. Okay. But I'm going to dial Jack for you right now. Here we go. Hello. Hey, is this Jack?

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Yeah, this is Jack. Who's this? This is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Hey, Jack. Hello. Yeah. Yeah. Awkward. This doesn't happen every day. We get it. Feels good to be on the radio in front of a lot of people, doesn't it? Yeah, that sounds like a lot of people over there. What's going on? I met a lot of listeners, but that's okay.

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We're doing a segment here called A Second Date Update where we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you met up with not too long ago. You went to a champagne and shackles party with a woman named Mandy. Yeah, the cuff and date. Yeah, I remember that. What did you think when she hit you up on Hinge and asked you to go to this?

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Um, yeah, honestly, it kind of gave me flashbacks from when I was in a locked up prison. What? Oh, I'm just joking, guys. Oh, OK. I totally thought that was. Yeah. No, we're on the radio. Yeah. Best joke you've said all day. Yeah, we turned on for this. Okay, well, we appreciate that.

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But on a more serious note, we are trying to help Mandy figure out if there's going to be a second date between the two of you. Yeah, what'd you think of her? Mandy's a nice girl. Okay. Yeah. We spoke to her and we got that impression. No woman wants to be called nice. You're a guy. No, nobody likes that. And just that. Nothing else. When you first saw her, were you attracted to her?

Chapter 3: How does the 'champagne and shackles' party work?

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No, I wasn't rude. Well, we're at this party, and we're tied together, and she says she wants to go into the bathroom with me. Right. And I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, go into the bathroom with you. Oh. Oh. Oh, you're reading between the lines of what that means. Yeah. Yeah, we go into the bathroom, and I'm about to kiss her, honestly. No. Oh, my God.

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You didn't know that she actually had to go to the bathroom? She turns the light on and says, can I turn around? Because she's going to use the bathroom. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You thought she was trying to create a little private romantic moment for you? That has to be. Yeah, I had no idea. I pulled my shirt off. I thought it was a moment. You're de-robing all the way. You really go for it.

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One-handed de-robing. Wow. So you were like the disappointment that what you expected didn't turn out to be is why you're not calling her back? Yeah. No, not at all. Not at all. Oh. Okay, that's good. What was it? Well, she's at the bathroom and I'm just like ready to go back out there. She says, no, hold on. I want to touch my makeup up. Oh, okay. So she did that for a while.

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Oh, so you're standing there in the bathroom. Why is that bad? How long is a while? I'm not timing the girl, but it could have been anywhere from 17 to 20 minutes, honestly. 17? Oh, my God. So you two were in the bathroom for a very long time. It was some time, yeah. And I tried to break up the time by adding a little small talk. But she was really, really into her work and doing her makeup.

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Hey, you said she was attractive. I mean, I'm sorry. It takes a lot of work to be attractive. It's an art. As I noticed, it took a lot of work. Yeah, you're right. That's what I would say. I would be careful with the things that you say there, Jack, because you should probably know at this point that Mandy's on the other line listening to this. Oh. Yeah. She wants to talk to you. Okay.

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I mean, Jack, I can't even believe this. Like, you're going to be judging me for putting on too much makeup? Oh. I didn't say too much. Seriously? Oh, no. Oh, that was a hole. Okay. The time period. Long time period. Okay. Was it long, though, or were we just tipsy? Like, come on. We're enjoying ourselves. Whatever. Could have been five minutes, and you just thought it was like 20. Feels long.

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No, it was like 20 minutes. I thought we were having a good time. I'm not even really paying attention to any of that. Just enjoying your company. I noticed you weren't paying attention. Okay, but Jack, listen. You have to consider the circumstances that you guys were in. She doesn't have both of her hands to apply the makeup with. It's true. So right there, 17 minutes.

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You got to cut that in half when you add the second hand on. Was it your right hand or your left hand that was unusable? The dominant? If you were having to use your wrong hand. Yeah, it was not my dominant hand. Okay. So she's using her weak one hand to apply makeup, plus she's tipsy. So maybe, Jack, do you think you're being a little bit judgy about that part of it?

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If anything, you should have helped her, bro. Yeah, helped her put her mascara on. Or be impressed. Honestly. Well, like I said, I tried to talk a little bit. I had a little small talk, but she didn't seem to want any small talk because she was so focused in on her job. Okay, so you're feeling ignored. I mean, that's really what it comes down to. That's a good word for sure.

Chapter 4: What challenges did Mandy face during the party?

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All right. Well, you said yes. Okay. Yay. Well, congratulations, you two. We're going to hop on Amazon, get some zip ties ready, and you guys are going to have a great time. Yay. Jack, are you happy now? I'm really happy, yeah. I think it'll be a great go with Mandy. Well, hopefully it'll be different this time. Okay. That sounds weird. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. storyteller, and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives.

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And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the is-ness of it all.

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If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart-side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must-listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze.

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Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. To keep this secret for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro.

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This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark. You're a dangerous person who preys on vulnerable and trusting people. Your creditor might go up in good. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't know what kind of waivers we'd have to get for people to sign.

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That's not smart. It's more of a friend thing, I think. Well, maybe there's another one from a 78-year-old woman at a retirement home asking for a champagne and shingles night. Maybe that would be better. I would recommend the shingles vaccine. Yeah. That's what you should go with. That takes the fun out of it. It's a little more painful, Jeff.

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It'll be interesting to get another update from this couple. Jack did fold pretty quickly once he found out that she was waiting on the phone to talk to him. Yeah. Well, that is, like, how I would be. You know, like, oh, they heard me? Oh, shoot. Some people really care about looking good on the radio. They don't want to come across looking bad. But I don't give a crap. Okay. So there you go.

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I'll say anything. All right. Whatever it takes to get you a second date. That's right. No pride here. No, we'll do whatever. Just email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back.

Chapter 5: What was Jack's reaction to the bathroom incident?

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In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband.

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Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Jill Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend, Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change.

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Dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves. So I'm like delusionally proud of my chart. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast.

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This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go.

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Our iHeartRadio Music Awards are coming back Thursday, March 26th live on Fox. Watch as we honor the biggest stars from all genres of music that you loved listening to all year long on your favorite iHeartRadio station and the iHeartRadio app. Hosted by Ludacris. Icon Award recipient John Mellencamp. Innovator Award recipient Miley Cyrus.

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With performances by Alex Warren, Kehlani, Lainey Wilson, Ludacris, Ray, TLC, Salt-N-Pepa, and En Vogue. Plus, Taylor Swift makes her first award show appearance this year. Also, gold medal Olympian Alyssa Liu, Neo, Nicole Scherzinger, Nikki Glaser, Sombra, Weezer, and more. Watch live on Fox Thursday, March 26th at 8, 7 central.

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And listen on iHeartRadio stations across America and the free iHeart app. Hey there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know Think Spring podcast playlist is available now.

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Whether spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside, and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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