Chapter 1: What legacy did Barry Blaustein leave in the wrestling community?
Welcome to the Busted Open Podcast. This is Dave LaGreca. On today's episode, we talk about the life and career of Barry Blaustein and the documentary Beyond the Mat. His love letter to professional wrestling and what it means to us fans. We talk about it right now on the Busted Open Podcast. This is the Busted Open Podcast. We lost...
A big part of our community, the pro wrestling community, and that's Barry Blaustein, has passed away. He passed away yesterday. And for those who don't know Barry, Barry was a big influence on the early 80s version of Saturday Night Live.
Chapter 2: How did Barry's work on Saturday Night Live influence his career?
He wrote a lot of the historic skits for Eddie Murphy. I'm talking Celebrity Hot Tub. I'm talking Gumby. I'm talking Mr. Rogers. I mean, he did a phenomenal job on early 80s Saturday Night Live. Also a screenwriter for Eddie Murphy. The Nutty Professor. Coming to America. Coming to America. The sequel.
And what we know him for here on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 and our community of pro wrestling is the Beyond the Mat documentary from 1999. And I know that a lot of people have probably seen that documentary a hundred times. I know I have, I actually went back and watched it again last night.
And just the icon, like when you've seen a movie as many times as I have seen beyond the bat, like you could almost word for word, say some of the dialogue and some of the iconic lines and moments from that documentary and, And for those who haven't seen Beyond the Mat, I tell you, as a wrestling fan, and obviously anybody that's listening to this show this morning is a diehard wrestling fan.
It's part of our DNA. You have to go watch it. It's available everywhere. It's easy to find. Definitely take the time. And even if you have to spend a little money, spend it. It's worth it. It's phenomenal. To me, it's the best. pro wrestling documentary that there is. And for us wrestling fans, especially in 2026, we have so many behind-the-scenes shows. We have A&E's biography.
The WWE has come out with so many 24-7s, so many behind-the-scenes documentaries, unreal, that we get to peek behind the curtain a little bit. and see pro wrestling that we don't normally see when we're watching a Monday Night Raw or a SmackDown or a Dynamite. And every company now has their version from the WWE to AEW to the NWA. All have their reality shows and their behind-the-scenes shows.
As far as I know... Beyond the mat was like the first real documentary that I saw. You know, you could talk about wrestling with shadows, but beyond the mat to me was it's on its own plane, its own platform. And it showed the highs and the lows of the pro wrestling business. And the, the, the thing that I have always appreciated about Barry is
And he explains it in the beginning of the documentary about that that project was his love letter to professional wrestling. And he starts it off talking about being eight years old, sitting in his living room floor, watching professional wrestling. And those moments and those memories never left him. And with all that that man accomplished, and he accomplished a lot.
I mean, listen, he was a part of Eddie Murphy when Eddie Murphy was fucking Eddie Murphy, man. When he was the biggest box office draw that you could possibly... Like, I don't think people understand how big Eddie Murphy was in the 80s. From Saturday Night Live to what he was able to accomplish throughout his career. And...
Barry was a part of that from the beginnings all the way up to the coming to America's in the boomerangs and those huge box office hits. But he always said publicly, and I was actually reading this in the LA times this morning that the project he was most proud of in his entire career was beyond the mat. And I was also reading, imagine who distributed the movie and,
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Chapter 3: What makes Beyond The Mat a significant documentary for wrestling fans?
Terry Funk forever, forever with Terry. Terry Funk downing a Coors Light after winning the ECW Championship on the first ever pay-per-view, barely legal, at the ECW Arena. Dennis Stamp on the trampoline saying, I don't do tricks, I just jump. I'm not booked, Terry. I'm not booked. I'm not going to be there. I'm not booked. I mean, these are things that we quote all the time.
I don't do any tricks, I just jump. Jake the Steak Roberts picking at his jacket. What the hell is this shit? What is this, chocolate? What the hell is this shit? The Heyman speech before Barely Legal at the ECW Arena. We played it. And I just had this conversation with Tommy Dreamer last week on the show, last Wednesday. We were talking about Beyond the Mat.
And we were talking about defining matches and moments in ECW. And we talked about from Beyond the Mat. This is the dance speech from Paul Heyman. It's iconic. And again, every independent promoter tries to emulate that speech before a show. And then the infamous Mick Foley, I quit match with The Rock at the Royal Rumble.
And his children and his wife sitting at ringside crying, watching Mick Foley getting those chair shots from The Rock. Like just iconic, iconic moments from, in my estimation, and we've had many now, the greatest documentary in the history of pro wrestling. And Barry Blouston, who passed away just yesterday, and his love letter with Beyond the Mat, I just want, you know, rest in peace. Thank you.
Thank you for putting that project together. And I was talking to my brother about it last night. My brother's not a wrestling fan, but obviously, you know, wrestling is a part of his life because of me, because it's been a part of my life for almost 45 years. My brother's never seen Beyond the Mat, and I told my brother, Don, you have to see this movie.
And if there's anybody out there that has never seen it, you have to see it. And I feel as a tribute to Barry... because it's so unique to have a show like busted open where we could take phone calls. I kind of want to take phone calls and, and talk about this movie and to talk about this documentary. And this wasn't like a 2020 with Eddie Mansfield of trying to expose the business and,
This wasn't like something where it's like an expose about how terrible pro wrestling is. It showed the pitfalls and it showed the blemishes. And I think that's part of the pro wrestling story. But it also showed the highs. And you can't show the highs if you don't show the lows. And that roller coaster ride and watching it last night. And I said, I've seen this movie a hundred times.
There are moments during that documentary where I get teary eyed and I get emotional. How could you not? And then just the addiction that is pro wrestling. Seeing a Dennis Stamp, you know, that interview with Dennis Stamp is from 1998.
He hadn't had a match since 1990, but yet he's on the trampoline every day because he's like, you never know when you're going to get that phone call and that next match is coming your way. Or the absolute heartbreak in his voice when he's telling Terry Funk, Terry Funk invites him to his farewell and he's like, I'm not coming. I'm not booked.
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Chapter 4: What are the most memorable moments from Beyond The Mat?
And there's things that you see in that movie are like, this is still relevant in 2026. So I want to say, Barry... Rest in peace and thank you. Thank you for this documentation, this love letter to pro wrestling. And I know that there's people that are listening now that may have some memories of this movie. If you do, 877-344-4893.
I'd love to hear from the Busted Open Nation this morning about some of their favorite moments from this movie, their recollections of seeing it for the first time. How many times have you gone back and watched this movie? And maybe if you've never seen it, call in and just tell me now after hearing what I had to say if you're going to go out and you're going to watch that movie.
And there's so much to get into today. We got the world of pro wrestling, but I think there's certain people that you have to take that pause. You have to take that moment and you have to celebrate. And here we are. This is not somebody that stepped in the ropes and wrestled. This is not somebody that picked up a microphone and cut a promo.
This is not somebody who, you know, had a podcast or a radio show like I do talking about the world of pro wrestling. He wasn't a booker. He wasn't an owner. He was just a fan. And he made this movie knowing probably people were going to look at him a little bit like, why? Especially then. Because back then in the 90s, it was taboo to admit that you're a wrestling fan.
It was like the guilty pleasure of being a wrestling fan. It certainly wasn't mainstream. It wasn't on SportsCenter like it is today. It didn't have that cachet that it did back then, that it does right now. But he believed in it. He loved it so much that he put his reputation online to make a project like Beyond the Mat. So because Barry did that for us, I think we should do that for him.
And even though we're talking about one project and one movie... I think that that movie needs to be celebrated. It needs to be talked about. And I want to do that this morning with you, the Busted Open Nation. Because like Barry, his project was a love letter as a fan. This show is a love letter to pro wrestling from me as a fan. Again, I am not a wrestler. I am not a promoter.
I am not an owner. I'm a fan. I'm a fan that... created a show so that other fans can talk. And we've obviously elevated and we've graduated and we brought in Hall of Famers and you know the legends that are a part of this show. But make no mistake, the foundation is two guys, Dave and Doug. Just two fans talking about pro wrestling.
So for today, and we got a lot of great guests that are going to join us this morning. I'm looking forward to the conversations that we're going to have. I'm looking forward to having the conversations with you, the fan, about this project. And you know what? Whatever you want to talk about this morning. You get caught up in it.
the criticism and how things could be better and why this is being done and why not this is being done. Boy, it could be so much better. It could be so much worse. Then there's moments like when I found out that Barry passed where it's just like going back to the core of just being a fan and why you love pro wrestling the way that we do.
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Chapter 5: How did Barry capture the highs and lows of wrestling in his documentary?
I was watching it in bed last night for, you know, the 10th time or whatever. I still cannot believe what he has on camera. Like, I just... Not only does he get, like, these intimate, you know, really inside moments, like, of course, as I posted the clip, and I'm sure people mentioned it, the incredible moment between Dennis Stamp and Terry Funk, right? Yep.
Like, one of the most beautiful and tragic and just sweet scenes you'll ever see in a documentary is, something that truly gets into the mindset that everybody who wants to be a part of the wrestling business has. This sort of desperation to be seen, to be heard, to be used. That is incredible.
But not only do you get the bigger stuff like that and the tryouts of the kids trying to make it in WWE, but the fact that he just has... Jim Ross and Jim Cornette standing at a monitor analyzing young talent. The fact that he has prime attitude era Vince McMahon talking to draws, having an actual meeting where he's kind of trying to see whether someone has it. And you see Shane.
I noticed yesterday when the scene starts, Shane literally brings Vince coffee. Like, this is small, intimate stuff, but, like, I cannot believe he has this. Like, he was backstage to see, you know, all of our friend now, because she's grown up in the business, Noel Foley, as a baby, going through this stuff with Rock.
Dave, the fact that it was made, the fact that Barry was able to get the access to It is an unbelievable piece of art that, as a wrestling fan, I'm just so grateful exists.
Yeah, and Peter, in this day and age, obviously we see all these documentaries all the time. A&E has biographies, and we have Unreal, and there's been so many documentaries that have come out. And I love them all, and we watch them. But this was like the first. And that one, and I agree with you, it's the greatest movie ever made about professional wrestling.
And you're never going to see anything like that ever again. Because it's always going to be skewed in one direction. It's always going to be a certain company's point of view. Because if they're not involved in it, you're not going to see it. He was able to do something that no one's ever going to be able to duplicate again.
And he did it, Dave, at a time. It was exactly when wrestling was exploding and becoming this gigantic billion-dollar industry that... It completely changed it. So, like, it could have only happened then. I mean, I suppose, you know, it would have been amazing if there was a documentary, like, you know, after WrestleMania III.
But really, you're talking about the end of the 80s and the end of the 90s, where you have these two booms that changed the business. Now the milk can never go back in the udder. It already is what it is. He caught it at this perfect moment, and...
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Chapter 6: What personal stories did Barry share about wrestlers in Beyond The Mat?
I was just tickled because I'm like, Oh my God, it's a guy from beyond the mat. He, he, he likes my, my podcast. And as the years went on, you know, we stayed in touch and, his wife shared with me that she ended up getting very familiar with the show because over the last many years, Parkinson's made it so he was unable to drive. So he was still very active. He was still teaching his course.
He was still boxing. He was doing a lot of stuff, but he couldn't legally drive anymore because of the Parkinson's. And So she, as a result of this, was always listening to Cheap Heat with him because she had to drive him to his college course that he taught, which was like an hour from home.
And I just, you know, Dave, I was just like, she reached out to me Sunday, and she had told me, you know, if you wanted to sort of say your goodbyes on the podcast, you know, he would hear it. But, you know, like, this is a matter of days now. And, you know, I was really hoping that we'd get to Friday and get to, you know, say it to him. And obviously we didn't get there, you know.
And he ended up, you know, getting the late-stage pancreatic cancer diagnosis. Even though he fought so bravely against Parkinson's, it ended up being the cancer. Right. I really wish I could have told him because we hadn't spoken in a couple of years. And, you know, I sort of always credit John Cena with bringing me back into pro wrestling.
But I really think had I not seen Beyond the Mat, that's what Dave took me to the next level of, like, I always liked this as a kid to, oh, my God, here's this Jewish guy who's able to perfectly explain why I'm so fascinated. And I just... I don't think I would have been doing all this work in my life and this passionate stuff that I do if it wasn't for Beyond the Mat.
He did something that really changed a lot of our lives, like really important, important work. He was a special man.
Yeah, and, you know, we texted back and forth, and I'm not going to take too much of your time, but I'm so glad that you came on this morning. But, you know, my brother Don is not a wrestling fan. He appreciates it because it's such a big part of my life, but he's never been a fan. And, like, you even said to me, I can't believe your brother's never seen this movie.
And I talked to him last night. I was like, Don, you have to watch this movie. Like, you know, I just think – I don't think there's a better capsule – to describe this world better than beyond the mat. If you took a non wrestling fan and, and somehow some way tried to describe this crazy business, I can't think of anything better, a documentation to show them beyond the mat.
So he explained, he explained the unexplainable. He conveyed, he conveyed the unconveyable. Like he, You try to have a conversation. Why do you love this crazy thing? And we can try, and people come up with these lazy euphemisms. Oh, it's like a soap opera for men. It's like sports, but it's not.
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Chapter 7: Why is Beyond The Mat considered a love letter to professional wrestling?
It's, it's absolutely fantastic. And it stood the test of time. So, uh, that, you know, he, it will be celebrated forever, forever to quote Terry Funk in the movie forever.
Exactly. Forever.
Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. I love you, man.
Love you too, man. Thank you guys for having me on. I appreciate it. And Kelly, clip up all the stuff about Barry today, and I'll shoot it over to his wife. I'm sure she'd love it.
You got it, Pete. All right, Peter Rosenberg. Thank you, my friend. Catch the full three hours of Busted Open every day of the week at 9 a.m. Eastern on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7, channel 156.
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