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But For Real

What to Do When the World Is on Fire (Literally) ☄️

29 Oct 2025

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In a world that’s both metaphorically and literally on fire, it can feel nearly impossible to figure out how the hell to live without either feeling like you’re gaslighting yourself into “normalcy” or getting so paralyzed by eco-anxiety that you can’t function. In this episode, Valerie and Emerson dive into all things Eco-Anxiety & Planet Grief, as well as steps you can take to navigate a burning world without getting STUCK in the apathetic loop of grieving our Mother Earth.This episode covers:04:40 - Tea & Crumpets: Katrina: Come Hell and High Water + One Battle After Another09:04 - Step Into My Office: How do I care about the planet without drowning in guilt or apathy?17:01 - The DSM: Eco-Anxiety & Planet Grief43:11 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!45:21 - Valerie’s Pick: "Peace Train" by Cat Stephens 48:11 - Emerson’s Pick: "Send It On" by Disney's Friends for Change48:36 - Wait...What? The Great Lock In of 202553:09 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Man is Shocked to Find His Dog Giving a Baby Koala a Piggyback Ride and The triumphant return of Francine the catResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Katrina: Come Hell and High WaterOne Battle After AnotherYale Experts Explain Climate AnxietyHickman et al., 2021, The Lancet Planetary HealthChapman et al., 2021, The Journal of Climate Change and HealthClinical Ecopsychology: The Mental Health Impacts and Underlying Pathways of the Climate and Environmental Crisishttps://playingforchange.com "Peace Train" by Cat Stephens"Send It On" by Disney's Friends for ChangeThe triumphant return of Francine the catMan is Shocked to Find His Dog Giving a Baby Koala a Piggyback...

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