Chapter 1: What context does Jessi provide before the interview?
Hey guys, I just wanted to give some context before you watch the interview of when this episode was recorded. It is currently Friday, March 20th in the early afternoon and so much is happening with Secret Lives. So if any news breaks over the weekend, we are not avoiding the topic. It's just we already recorded the episode and we weren't privy to that information. So enjoy the episode.
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Jesse Draper, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you. It has been such a crazy time for the secret lives of Mormon wives right now, obviously. There have been some really traumatic headlines. And to be clear, you were booked to come on Call Her Daddy before any of the Taylor Frankie Paul news broke.
Originally, the plan was to talk about your own journey, and we are going to do that today. But... We do need to acknowledge what's going on right now with your co-stars Taylor and Dakota. So last week, a recent domestic violence report from February came to light. And as that news was breaking, then a disturbing video from a 2023 altercation between Taylor and Dakota was released.
Yeah.
And then two hours later, Taylor's season of The Bachelorette was canceled. Yeah. The footage is really hard to watch, especially because there is a child involved. I imagine this was really upsetting for all of the cast. Prior to the release, did you know this video existed?
I did um, obviously back in 2023 we knew what had happened and we knew there was a video but like We never saw it.
It was like the police had had it and they talked about it and we all just were like, okay I don't like to judge someone in their darkest moment, you know Like I don't want to judge the person i'll judge the mistake And taylor really has made a lot of changes and that's what's so hard for me is like this is my real friend And she does have a really good heart and I love her so much um
Seeing that video is like so hard because it's just, there's so much pain underneath the surface for Taylor. And I tell her this all the time that it's not who Taylor is. She got caught in a really bad cycle and just seeing that video and yes, the child being involved is awful. Everyone involved is really hard. But Taylor's such a good person. And she's made some mistakes. And so is Dakota.
And I'm not saying any of it's right. But I know Taylor is a person. And it's so easy to speculate about these people on a reality show. I think when you watch it, we're characters.
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Chapter 2: How did Jessi discover her husband's infidelity?
We're not real people. But this is our real lives. And I've seen Taylor in her darkest moments holding her, crying. I've been there for her. So I know what goes on behind the scenes. And I want this to be maybe a wake-up call for them. And Let's get them healthy and happy and move forward. And I believe people can come back from things like this.
And I just want the kids to be safe and happy and healthy. That's all I really want for them right now.
I'm curious because like now seeing the footage, like you said, like you knew there was something and people had read the reports and obviously they came back from it. But seeing it, has it made you reevaluate the manner in which this relationship and everything has been handled to date with the two of them?
Yeah. I mean, we all knew it was a toxic cycle. Don't get me wrong. You saw her in season four and how she was dealing with that and us kind of being like, Taylor, what are you doing? But no one knew the extent. And Taylor herself had said to us, I didn't want to tell anyone the extent. And I think anyone in that situation knows that it's so easy just to be like, everything's fine.
I've been there too. So yeah, none of us really knew the extent. And now finding out all these details... It's been hard for sure. How is this impacting the group as a whole right now?
So me and the girls, we did decide to stop filming when we found this out because we were starting to hear things a little bit before it leaked and we just didn't want to be filming and say the wrong thing on camera not knowing the full story yet. We didn't want to like have to process all this information for the first time and then also be speaking about it, you know?
So we just thought like for everyone's mental health, let's take a beat and let's not film right now. And that's probably the best thing for everyone in this situation. Yeah.
Can you also clarify like I know that we read that a decision at first was made by executives to pause filming the upcoming season of Secret Lives that you're in the middle of filming.
Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What traumatic events impacted Jessi during her marriage?
Love them. So production, network, they have been incredible to us. And they did. They paused things for a minute because I think they were like, whoa, we care about you guys as people. Then we picked back up.
And just to clarify, like, was that when the initial recent domestic violence?
No, this was when we found out he filed a police report. So this was before it broke, though. So they were like, you know, for everyone's mental health, like, let's take a beat. And then when news broke or actually like a little bit before news broke, but we knew it probably was going to us girls decided.
So we went to production and the network and they were all so supportive and they were like, we totally get it. You guys come first. They handled it so well. And because of that, I feel like we all felt comfortable being like, you know what? This is our real lives. And if we want this show to continue to be successful, we have to handle this the right way.
Were you shocked at all when you heard he did file another domestic violence? Yes, because I'm sure there are situations in the past where he could have and didn't. And same with her. So because of that, I was like, why now? But I don't know the reason behind it. Everyone's kind of speculating on that. But I think maybe he had hit a limit. Maybe. I don't know. I genuinely have no idea.
When the cast then did make the decision, obviously, once you guys heard the video was going to come out.
Yeah.
Who brought the girls together? Who was the person to raise this to you guys? What were those conversations like?
Honestly, it was us as a whole. We were all in a group message. So we were just like, hey, let's jump on a Zoom call. And we all got on a Zoom call. And even Whitney was on it, even though she's not in our lives every single day anymore. And we all just kind of talked about it as a whole. And we're like, hey, how's everyone feeling? Pulse check. How do you want to handle this?
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Chapter 4: How does Jessi describe her relationship dynamics with Jordan?
Clearly there's no shortage of drama in our lives so if we get another season it's going to be good.
Yeah. What do you think obviously because of all of this coming out like if you did resume filming you're going to have to talk about all of this like what do you think it would take for you to feel comfortable to start filming again?
I think now we're at a point where we're like, OK, the world knows and like the info is out there. And so, you know, now we're good and we can speak on the things we know and we can talk about it in a real way rather than before we were like, we don't even know if this is going to get out. So we didn't know if we could even talk about it when we were filming. Now we can.
This is the first time in the history of The Bachelorette that the show was pulled right before the premiere. Yeah. What was your reaction when you found out?
I wasn't super surprised because I felt like there was a lot of discourse online that they probably needed to. But I have to say, I saw Taylor during that journey and she was a different person. I genuinely feel like she needed to get away from Dakota. She stepped into like a really confident, amazing era. I saw her twice and I was like, your aura is different. Your energy is different.
And it was like the old Taylor again. So I like I'm so sad because I really wanted people to see that side of Taylor and like Maybe one day they will. Who knows? But I just felt like it was such a good experience for her. And I'm really sad because it was very wholesome and dramatic, but amazing. So did you have a heads up or did you find out when the news broke?
No, I found out when the news broke. Yeah. I was literally, I was dancing with Sasha from Dancing with the Stars. We were doing a little dance lesson. My friend was with us and she goes, pause, breaking news. And I was like, what? So yeah. And when that happens, you just immediately go to the group chat? Like what were all the other women saying? Oh, Taylor was calling me.
So I had had two missed calls from her and I was like, oh shit. So I like answered and she was just like, how are you? The thing about Taylor is she's always checked. Like she has her own shit going on. So sometimes she's like not very present, but she does care about her friends. So she was like, how are you doing? I just heard. And I was like, how are you doing? So how is she doing?
I actually talked to her right before I came in here and she seemed pretty positive today. And I think she knows that this is going to be a long and scary journey. And the thing about Taylor, she always tells the truth. You know, she's known for that. And I think she's going to handle this in the best way possible. And I think she's taking a beat to figure that out.
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Chapter 5: What led to Jessi's decision to file for divorce?
And she called me and was like, I work for this. You can look into it. She sent me so much proof.
So you can confirm by speaking to this woman that he was involved with escorts.
Yeah. And she sent the screenshots. And it's his phone number. She wouldn't have known his phone number. I literally have it. And what kind of proof was she showing you? Just the messages he had sent and his phone number being attached. Also, she said this happened while he was in Texas and he was in Texas doing summer sales at the time. And this was before we filmed the show.
So no one would have known that.
So do you know after that moment if he continued with other escorts?
I don't know. But I do know that literally like a month ago, my sister was out to dinner with her husband and a friend of his came up to them and he's like, hey, man, like, how are you doing? And then he's like, by the way, are Jesse and Jordan still married? And they were like, yeah, why? And he goes, I go to these parties and he's always there.
And especially when they had their daughter, he was there a lot. That was like the time he was, you know, being seen. So. I don't have proof of those, but that's what I've heard. When you hear that, like, where does your head go? You know what's so messed up is my sister told me this, like, a few weeks ago. And she was like, I'm so sorry, like, expecting me to cry. And I was like, you know what?
This was, like, my final straw. Like, I needed to hear this to, like, be okay with, like, moving on.
Now looking back, I'm like... you did in a form protect him because you went through this whole scandal of kissing Marciano twice.
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Chapter 6: How does Jessi feel about her husband's behavior during their marriage?
But then after he the way he reacted during the Marciano stuff made me question it because you know how they say if someone else is hiding something, they're going to accuse you of more. So I think that that's what made me realize is I'm like, are you hiding something? So you're like putting it all on me.
OK, we're going to get to the Marciano thing because I want to go through all of that. But when it is alleged that he was using your money to pay for parties and for escorts. Yeah.
can you confirm that i mean it's hard to say at the at the time of the escorts he he did work so it could have been his but when you're married everything's both of yours as of the last three years everything has been my money like he does not work i provide everything um and so if anything's happened within the last three years it had been my money for sure and when
This site was saying that he was paying for parties. What kind of parties do you think he was paying for?
I have to believe they're orgies, like sex parties. I don't know what other kind of parties you would pay for. Like, you just go to a party, you know? So that's what I have to believe. I've actually never asked him about this. I've just heard about it. But the funny thing is I heard through my sister who heard from someone who was there. And now it's also being reported.
So I'm like, clearly there's some truth to it.
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Chapter 7: What are Jessi's thoughts on the future of her career and dating?
Do you think any other people in Dad Talk were participating in these orgies? I have no idea.
I actually haven't even thought about that possibility until now. I have no clue.
We're like back to season one of Swinging, but worse.
Swingers!
We're like, wait, we're like taking it up a notch.
You know, have you talked to any of the women about this? I have only told Macy and Michaela. What is their response? They were like, he's disgusting. To be fair, everyone in my life, friends, family, employees, everyone hates him. Like no one. When I got divorced, everyone I've told so far, it's been like, congratulations. Not one person has been like, I'm so sorry.
I was going to say the entire internet is like, thank God she's so free.
Yes.
Yep. How has that felt seeing the public's response be so not only just positive to your divorce, but like grateful that you're removing yourself from this?
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Chapter 8: What message does Jessi want to share with other women in similar situations?
And I do feel bad like that. People are like talking about his looks, his personality. He'll never date anyone again. And so like there is a part of me that like I'm like, I just like I it's not that I chose to break up with him during that because of it. But it just lined up that way. So I do feel guilty.
But but do you think he actually won't?
date anyone ever again no has he been seeing anyone since you guys have been separated in the past few well it's funny because when i left him he was like trying to be like you're probably cheating on me again you know because that's his only thing he you know blames me about but i was like no this is because i'm not in love with you this isn't about anyone else i want to be alone but i do think he's been talking to people i i've heard that through the grapevine so
But now you can even see from your energy, you're like, I don't give a fuck.
No. Like literally get away from me.
Yeah. Have you been in touch with Jordan since he filed?
So he texted me, I think because he knew the news was going to be coming out after I got the TMZ text. And he was like, by the way, I filed, but I didn't know it was going to be public. And I was like, that's funny because you gave him a statement. Like you literally emailed TMZ what to say. So he was like, well, you know, I was advised that it was what was best for me.
And I was just like, do not talk to me anymore. We will handle the kids through a third party. He has a history of being emotionally abusive. And so I was like, I'm not going to get into this. So we're done here. And we're going to handle the kids through someone else.
Is it true I heard you changed your phone number?
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