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The Claire Byrne Show

Are the Arts inclusive enough? 

21 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

1.87 - 6.254 Claire Byrne

The Clare Byrne Show on Newstalk with Aviva Insurance.

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Chapter 2: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

9.537 - 28.536 Claire Byrne

Now, are the arts inclusive enough? Well, two people trying to make it more so are Aisling Byrne, writer and director of the new short film Mary is Missing and actor Derek McSweeney, who stars in Mary is Missing. And they both join me now and you're both very welcome to the show. I'll start with you, Aisling. Can you tell me a bit about the film?

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29.14 - 47.115 Aisling Byrne

So Mary is Missing is a short film. We're very proud to say it's now an Oscar qualifying short film after winning the Grand Prix down in Cork back in November. But the roots of the film went back many years prior. Derek and our other actors at Run of the Mill worked together every Friday at Maynooth University.

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47.095 - 73.626 Aisling Byrne

and we tend to make projects that are led by the artists' ideas, brilliant ideas, and by their talents. We had made many theatre productions. We had done a small foray into short film a few years ago, and we decided that we wanted to do something quite ambitious. So we ran a writer's room back in 2023 for 13 of our actors with intellectual disabilities, and the seed idea was

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73.606 - 91.984 Aisling Byrne

imagining that a key worker called Mary from a day service, from an Irish disability day service provider, had gone missing. But her fate and what had become of her was left entirely in the hands of our actors. So we improvised. We ran writers' workshops with Katrina Daly. We brought some outside actors in.

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92.725 - 98.871 Aisling Byrne

And from that, we cobbled together the idea for this short film, which had to be scripted then after the writers' workshops.

98.851 - 115.189 Claire Byrne

OK, well, that's really interesting. I didn't know that. Derek, I knew that you were a star of the Mary is Missing short film, but I didn't know you were involved at the very start, were you, with the idea? Yes. So you all sat together. Talk to me about that, how it worked and you fired around what you'd like to see in the film.

115.169 - 124.421 Derek McSweeney

When I saw the film, it was just an amazing opportunity to see myself on camera.

Chapter 3: How did the film 'Mary is Missing' come into existence?

125.222 - 143.619 Derek McSweeney

And it was amazing. It was amazing. But you've been an actor for a long time now, haven't you? Yes, I've been an actor since I was very young. And I was very proud. I was very proud doing Mary is Missing.

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143.779 - 155.878 Claire Byrne

And what do you love about acting? What is it about getting up on, let's say if you get up on a stage now in front of an audience, most people would be absolutely petrified. For you, how do you feel when you stand on the stage?

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156.278 - 169.665 Derek McSweeney

When I stand on stage, when you go on film and when you go on T-shirt, I go very subtle and that brings a lot of my acting into it.

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169.766 - 180.329 Claire Byrne

Okay, so you don't go mad with a big demonstrative performance. You're all about the little subtleties. Yes, yes. And have you nerves when you step out there?

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180.97 - 197.555 Derek McSweeney

So when I'm going on stage, I feel I'm proud and I feel I do lots of different things. I was in real life. I was the main character in real life.

199.158 - 203.344 Aisling Byrne

This was a stage production in Project Arts Centre last year where Derek played the lead.

203.662 - 214.436 Derek McSweeney

And I was so happy to be there. And then when you go on theatre and film, you go very subtle. So you make it small.

215.177 - 217.901 Claire Byrne

You make it small, Aisling. That's a particular skill, isn't it?

218.101 - 234.324 Aisling Byrne

Yeah, very much so. And I think what Derek is really highlighting so brilliantly there is the sort of the nuances between stage performance and screen performance. And Mary's Missing was Derek's first short film and it was the first step into screen acting for a lot of our artists at Run of the Mill.

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