The big guns perform at the World Cup

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Claire Byrne 0:01
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Clare Byrne 0:09
It's been another record-breaking night at the World Cup last night.
Messi. Gonzalez. Back to Messi. Messi! Messi! His first World Cup hat-trick!

What record did Lionel Messi achieve at the World Cup?

Clare Byrne 0:29
And it's a record-setter! That's the Argentina captain, Lionel Messi, becoming the oldest ever player to score a hat-trick at the World Cup. That also happened on the night where superstars Kylian Mbappe and Erling Haaland led their respective countries to victory. John Bruin of The Guardian joins me now. Hello, John.
John Bruin 0:46
Good morning, Clare. How are you?
Clare Byrne 0:47
I'm good. How are you surviving the hours of this World Cup, firstly?
John Bruin 0:51
Well, I don't think I am, to be honest. It's... Yeah, I watched the Harlan show, but I couldn't stay up for the Messi show last night. It's pushing it to stay up all night. It's tough going. If you've got a job as well, that's the difficult part.
Clare Byrne 1:09
That's the problem, isn't it? That is the problem. But just let's talk about Lionel Messi. I mean, I said that he was breaking records there, becoming the oldest ever player to score a hat-trick in the World Cup. But I was just reading some analysis of the performance and looking back on the videos this morning. He's just kind of tootling around the pitch. His only job is to get the ball in the back of the net if he can, if he's in the right place at the right time. And invariably that ends up happening.
John Bruin 1:32
yeah yeah i mean spectacular strikes weren't they just incredible uh for a man of his advancing years uh he has managed to pare down football to a series of uh yeah scoring spectacular goals though i should say it should be mentioned he probably should have been sent off before this that's right uh and um Are we to start switching the conspiracies about this? I don't know if you saw the footage of when Messi's going for his hat-trick and has a shot saved, we cut to Gianni Infantino with a big smile on his face because Messi scoring a hat-trick, well, that washes away quite a bit of the controversy, doesn't it?

How did Kylian Mbappe and Erling Haaland perform in their matches?

Clare Byrne 2:16
Well, yeah, it's like we were saying before the World Cup, you know, all of the controversies around it. Then once the football starts, everybody starts talking about the football. And if Messi scores a hat trick, that dominates the headlines today and probably tomorrow. So you can see where we're going with this.
John Bruin 2:32
Yes, absolutely. So, yeah, Messi scores a hat trick and stories of the treatment of the

What insights does John Brewin share about surviving the World Cup hours?

John Bruin 2:37
iran team having to fly out of the us on the day of the game that drops down the the you know the sidebar of shame or whatever doesn't it and there and therefore we we talk about messy we talk about record breaking we talk about world cup legacy and stuff like that um this is it football the the brilliance of some of the football played at world cups and the brilliance of the world cup uh It was put to me that the sport washes itself, doesn't it? It washes away quite a lot of ills, but ills that we shouldn't forget. I think it would be irresponsible to do that.
Clare Byrne 3:12
And did you think that Messi should have been sent off?
John Bruin 3:15
Yes, yes, I do. Yeah, if that was an Algerian, he'd have been sent off for it, you know, and that's it. You can't do that. And in an era of VAR... you know, that's a red card. Messi knew he'd done it as well. I don't know if he did it deliberately, but he knew that he committed the offence. It was nasty. It was nasty. But, you know, he's a crotchety old man, isn't he? That's the thing. But he's also a brilliant footballer as well.
Clare Byrne 3:47
What is he, 38?
John Bruin 3:48
I think he's 39 during the tournament. Okay.
Clare Byrne 3:51
He mentioned something, didn't he, John, about personal problems at the end of the match and thanks to everybody for helping me get through it. We don't know what he's talking about, though. He didn't elaborate.
John Bruin 4:02
No, no. And this is the thing with Messi is he's unknowable, isn't he? That's the thing. He keeps himself... He's a superstar who no one really knows. That's it. There is this... There are occasional flashes of personality.

What analysis is presented about Messi's hat-trick performance?

John Bruin 4:17
I don't know if you recall... back in the 22 World Cup, there was him speaking, being quite abusive actually towards the Dutch players, a side of him that we've never really seen.

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