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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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There was a miraculous story recently that you might have seen about a Sherpa guide who went missing for a week, but then managed to make his way back to the Mount Everest base camp. He'd been missing so long that his family had begun the funeral rituals for him.
Well, I'm joined now on the line by the last person to see Dawa Sherpa before he went missing, climber and YouTuber Chris Thrall, and in the studio by climber and founder of Earth's Edge, James McManus. Chris, I'll come to you first. Good morning to you. Thanks for being with us.
Hi, Clare.
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Chapter 2: What miraculous story about a Sherpa guide is shared?
How are you doing?
Good. Explain to us what happened here.
Quite simple, really. We were coming down from the summit. We had two Sherpas who we kind of used interchangeably. No disrespect meant to them, but we had two Sherpas attached to the two climbers. On this particular event, we were coming down from the infamous Camp 4. One of the Sherpas sat on his backpack for a rest. I was the nearest to him. I turned around and said, are you okay, brother?
He said, yep, fine, Chris, you carry on. Unbeknown to us, he was struggling with oxygen. He didn't mention this. It's completely normal to sit down on your backpack and take a rest.
Chapter 3: Who is Chris Thrall and what role did he play in the Sherpa's story?
We'd done it hundreds of times, Claire. know one of us would go first then sit down for a break the other one would overtake so um nothing was was sort of untoward but when i came down over a feature called the yellow band which is um quite fair not a particularly steep abseil but some people choose to abseil over it i came across my fellow climber a polish chap who appeared to be struggling
When I asked him if he was okay, he said, I've run out of oxygen. And I knew, um, from the day before from his, uh, attempted summit that he had fairly severe frostbite in his fingers. So at that point, obviously all my attention turned to getting him down the mountain safely, which was supposed to be a two hour.
Would have been a two-hour trek to camp three where I figured we might be able to find a tent and find a cooker to heat up some water and this guy could get some sleep. We were actually on our way to camp two. This is the way the rotations are done. And as we descended, I look back up and it was apparent that the other Sherpa wasn't joining us for whatever reason and his head torch wasn't on. So
And what options did you feel, Chris, that you had at that point, given the conditions? I mean, was there anything you can do or do you just have to keep going?
Well, I'm going above and beyond Claire to help the Polish climber.
Yeah.
This isn't really how it works. You're not supposed to find yourself alone with another climber in pretty much the death zone, then with no oxygen and frostbite. That's kind of a big ass to, um, get them down, down the mountain. And, um, that was that the, as far as we were concerned, the, the, uh, the Sherpa, he was, you know, he was doing his thing, so to speak, and he's gonna any minute.
come bounding down the mountain and join us.
But that's not what happened. And he went missing then for so long that, as I said, his family thought that they would never see him again.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did the Sherpa face while descending from Everest?
And did you, have you been able to speak to him since he came back or to his wife or his daughter?
No, I've requested a chat via, you know, WhatsApp or something, but he was in the ICU already. When I asked, they were saying, you know, obviously the doctors were recommending that he doesn't speak to anyone whilst he was in there.
But I understand from reports that he is doing well and he's expected to make a full recovery, isn't he?
Yes, from everything that we see, it's, you know, how can you say? I'd say good result all round, but it's certainly an awful lot better than it could have been, Clare.
I mean, you yourself, you know, being so involved in this, it must have been quite a, you said you had an emotional conversation with his family, but the whole thing must have taken quite a toll on you, did it?
You know, you don't, when you're in the death zone, you don't really have any chance, Clare, to be getting emotional. You've got to focus on you know, in this case, helping the other climber down. It's the high mountains. It's incredibly serious. If it wasn't hard, then obviously thousands more people would attempt it every year. And you've got to kind of take these things on the chin.
I'm not trying to sound cold or callous, but, you know, this is... Like I say, if it was easy, everybody would do it.
It's the reality of what you do, Chris. Thank you so much for joining us to tell us about it. Chris Thrall there, who is a climber and a YouTuber. As I said, founder of Earth's Edge, James McManus, is with us. James, you're very welcome. I mean, that story is a reminder of how dangerous it is, this stuff that you do. And you choose to do it in an even more dangerous way. Isn't that right?
Yeah, I'm trying to climb these mountains without supplementary oxygen, which is another level of suffering and challenge, I guess.
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Chapter 5: What options did Chris have when he realized the Sherpa was missing?
Yeah. So there is massive amount of snow melt there. Huge, like the ice fall is becoming smaller and smaller. Like there's less ice, it's more rock exposed. There is legacy rubbish on Everest, but all the rubbish from this season, most, if not all of that is coming down.
Okay.
Yeah. And again, you have to think you're in a country where there's no refuse collection at all. So actually Everest and the valley people trek up is one of the cleanest in the...
in the um in the himalaya and that's due to education and tourism and how does a fellow from ross gray end up in this business it's a good question yeah so oh look it's just been a passion of mine from from from a young age to go try climb these mountains and bring people there as well i have groups coming to the himalaya with me in october it's i'm living my dream to go to go and do there
Was it a family thing? Were you brought up with this sort of interest?
Yeah, my mum got me into this and into kayaking and into adventure at a young age. Yeah, so always kind of in a caravan cruising around the country, climbing mountains.
Sounds great.
Yeah, it's great.
And is there a growing interest in it from your business point of view?
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