Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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The Clare Byrne Show on Newstalk. With Aviva Insurance. Now I'm joined by jazz, blues and soul singer Mary Coughlin for What Made Me. You're very welcome, Mary. Good morning.
Lovely to see you.
You're going to be busy again this summer.
Ah, stop it, lads. I have gigs in my diary until next May.
UK, Scotland.
UK, Scotland, yeah. Here, of course. Here, lots of going to the Olympia.
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Chapter 2: What experiences shaped Mary Coughlan's early life?
Shea Healy set up this thing called Sounds Promising and you had to send in a cassette of yourself singing two songs and we got picked. We came up to RTE, to this big studio in RTE and Gae Burn was walking by when they were mixing it and he said, who's that? And I said, it's a mother of three from Galway. And he said, can I pinch her for the Late Late Show?
And that was it. That was it? Yeah. Incredible. So it was really, I mean... Was that a life-changing moment? Oh, God, yeah. The Late Late Show, Gay Burn.
The whole business has been life-changing for me. I mean, I left Galway with the three kids. I had left my husband, Denny, my first husband, and... with the three kids under six. What was I thinking? I put them into the car, a few plastic bags of clothes and came up to Dublin.
You see, you probably didn't know what you were letting yourself in for. You know, when you look back at things like that and you go, if I'd have known what was ahead of me, I wouldn't make it.
Well, I don't know. I'm glad I did it though because I wrote a song a few years ago called In Another World, What Would I Have Done? Yeah. In any given situation, you know. And in another world, if you and I were still together, what would, you know, I had to leave, I think, to do it.
Yeah, and I don't, I'm not necessarily saying that, but I'm just saying if you know sometimes what the next phase is going to be.
Oh, stop it.
Could you face into it is my thing. Not that you change your decision, but I think we're better off not knowing what's ahead of us sometimes.
Yeah, well, I was 70 last week and I really had a bit of a horror, you know, I'd had a bit of a weird month before that. thinking about stuff, you know, like thinking, looking back on my life. I got very emotional and I decided I didn't want to party.
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Chapter 3: How did Mary Coughlan's career begin on the Late Late Show?
And does it feel like that to you? Does it feel like there's a new depth?
Yeah, I can feel it here.
Did you train at all?
Never. I've never even done a warm up. Eric Visser worked with Eric for years. You know, we did the first album, first nine records together. He has Parkinson's now and he's very, he's not great at the minute. But he said, it seems every time I had a child, I dropped a tone.
It changes a little bit.
Changed a bit, yeah. And it's deep now and I can feel it when I'm singing. like a vibration and not like I'm not a hippie. I used to be a hippie, but I can actually feel, you know, it's weird.
It's all still there. And the favorite genre for you of music to sing, do you have one or are you, you know, is it still rooted in the blues?
No, I mean, I wrote most of the last two albums myself, which is great. I never had the confidence to write before. I've written a couple, but the last album is called Repeat Rewind. And when I stopped drinking all those years ago, I couldn't sleep at night. Mm hmm. And I used to count sheep and I couldn't ever see the sheep or see, you know, didn't really make sense to me.
So one night I decided, I started thinking about Chantella and all of the people who lived on Ash Road.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Mary face as a mother and artist?
And I would start at the bottom, then at Dooley's and I'd go all the way up to the top. Named them all in your mind. And then I started Mulvane's this side and go all the way down that side and name all the kids in all the houses. And then I'd wake up in the morning. So I wrote the song. It's about Chantella. It's about the nun, Sister Pius, that I was madly in love with.
It's about playing on the streets. And your researcher asked me, what made me? And, you know, whatever. Chantella. Like all the hardship and all the abuse and all the drinking and everything. What stuck to me was kind of the rearing that we got on the street. We reared each other.
I'm not saying that my parents didn't reare us.
It shaped us. It shaped us. But we'd buy a record between us and go into each other's house once a week and really write down notes about it and stuff, you know.
Now, I have to go where I'm going to take Andrea Gilligan's time. I know the time goes quickly, but I am going to tell people that you're in Peacock's Bar and Lounge on the 12th of June.
That's with Alton Conlon and we're doing our podcast. It's not a regular gig.
Courtney's Lucan, the 19th of June, then off to Castle Bar on the 1st of August. And then you're off in Leeds and Glasgow and all of those exciting places.
I do work with Alton Conlon, I have to say that. And these are Alton gigs. We do a podcast together because you're not listening.
Mary, thank you so much.
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Chapter 5: What inspired Mary Coughlan to write her latest songs?
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