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Trumps WW3 Strategy & Epstein’s Israel Connection | Chris Cappy

03 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What military operation recently took place in Iran?

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On Saturday, February 28th, the United States and Israel launched a coordinated military strike against Iran that killed Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and dozens of top Iranian commanders. This is a move that's now shaking the world and pushing us even closer to World War III. And to make sense of what's really happening, I invited Chris Cappy into the tent.

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Cappy is a geopolitical YouTuber, a journalist, and former US military, and he's been tracking these developments very closely. And today he answers the big questions. Why are we fighting this conflict now? And whose war is it really? America's, Israel's, or both. And he discusses why this operation was so effective.

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We even discuss how the Epstein files may have even predicted this attack on Iran. And we even go through Epstein's role as an arms dealer.

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Chapter 2: How is the conflict in Iran connected to World War III?

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And he even shares how removing Iran's leader, Maduro and Mencho, the cartel leader, are all connected in preparing the United States for a bigger war against China. This episode was really interesting to me. And to be honest with you, I hate that America is involved in another conflict to the Middle East.

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And this is another conflict that the American people largely don't want in order to take out a regime that doesn't seem like it's a massive threat to us right now. But Cappy shared a perspective on how this could affect the bigger game. And he shows me the larger 4D chessboard of what's going on with all the global conflicts and how this actually sets us up.

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for a bigger war against China and how it positions us for a conflict against Russia. And he really shares both sides of how this could work really well and how this could be a total disaster. So if you're interested in geopolitics, Cappy is the man and he breaks it all down and tries to explain both sides as well as he can. So sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. Chris Cappy, how are you?

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Hey, Mark. Good to be here. Thank you so much for joining me, man. I really appreciate it, especially on short notice. This weekend, we saw some pretty wild scenes. A pretty significant military operation just went on in Iran, basically as like a, you know, a joint effort through the United States and Israel, as well as many other proxies kind of like slowly kind of entering into this conflict.

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So could you just break down to the audience what happened this weekend? And I guess what I want to get to is are we currently entering into World War III? Right. It's a historic military operation, one of the biggest air sorties in all of history. And it's kind of the culmination of... disagreements that have been happening in that region.

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It's a proxy war turned an actual direct war at this point, where for the last 30, 40 years, we've been coy about it. We've been playing around on the edges and killing each other in ways that I would say are... You could plausibly deny it. You could say, oh, we're not really doing that. When I was in Iraq, when I deployed to Iraq, all the time we found...

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Iranian agents, Iranian-backed fighters who were trained and equipped by Iran. Those were the main... element in our AO that was fighting us, but they could always say, no, it wasn't really us. And then the United States as well, and Israel, has been killing Iranians on this, killing their nuclear scientists.

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So this has all been happening on the periphery for many years, and it's coming to a head now.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of America's airstrikes on Iran?

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And there's a lot of reasons for that, but I think that's kind of the starting point, is that we're seeing a... What was once bubbling under the surface has now risen to the top. I see. Now, for people that don't know, right now the geopolitical layout of the region, you have Iran kind of with some friendliness with Russia as kind of this client state.

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China, obviously, having a direct connection, a few other, you know, countries in the region. And then on the other side, you have America, Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and, you know, obviously, NATO, Europe, things like that. Could you just kind of explain with a little bit more detail, who are the players right now? And what does it seem like the position jockeying kind of is?

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Like, what is the board? The main players are Saudi Arabia and Iran have been in this proxy conflict for years since the since the Iranian revolution in 1979. They've been at odds and they have economic reasons for that. There's competition in the oil industry between them. We now have Iraq as well, which is sort of on the United States side.

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And there's Israel, who's, of course, been at odds with Iran since the revolution. And before that, funny enough, they were actually allies. But since then, there's been tension where Iran is, they feel like they're standing up to Western influence. From Iran's point of view, they feel like, hey, we don't want to be a client state of America. We don't want to be just their puppet government.

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So that's how the Ayatollah had viewed it. And so that's the main conflict that we're looking at. Right. Now, on Saturday, what exactly happened? America flew in with, you know, a bunch of air power and within a matter of minutes took out basically all the heads of state. How does that happen? Insane decapitation strike. 200 fighter jets from America, another 200 from Israel.

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Israel was able to exploit the fact that Syria fell, Assad fell recently. So that opened up an air corridor easier for them. There's no air defense to shoot them down over Syria. So they could just fly their jets through that air corridor, midair refuel over there. drop bombs over Tehran all day long.

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And what they did was so Iran didn't expect the United States and Israel to strike during the day. And historically, we've always done our operations spooky style at night. We could be all stealthy. But they took basically Iran's air defense had been so degraded and so knocked out over the past two years. That it got to a point where Israel and U.S.

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assessed like we could do this during the day in broad daylight. And Iran and about a number of their other top leaders met at a compound the morning of the 28th. And. They met to have a military strategic meeting and the US and Israel bombed it to hell and killed the Ayatollah.

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And that was the start of the strikes was this big decapitation hit similar to how a year or two ago when Israel did a similar knocking out of the top leadership in Iran. And then they started bombing strategic sites. They're hitting the main weapon that Iran has. They have no air force. They have not big tank brigades. There's not going to be a ground war here.

Chapter 4: How does the geopolitical landscape affect U.S. interests?

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Afghanistan was toppled by the Taliban within days after we left. Same CIA that assessed that Ukraine would fall in three days. They are capable of a lot of insane stuff, but then there's also their limits. Right. Well, I'm curious if you can help me kind of distill my feelings about everything that's happened. Like, I'm not a big regime change guy.

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Like, I've just by looking at the pattern of history of all these coups that America's backed, either directly or indirectly through like proxy coups. It seems like it always ends up in a disaster. Like, I can't really think of one that, like, worked out really, really well. I mean, like, even the overthrow of Mohammad Mossadegh in 53 kind of creates the conditions for this to happen.

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So, like, that one's kind of a failure. I mean, like, coups through Honduras and Guatemala and, I mean, like, Gaddafi and Saddam. Like, there's just all these regime changes that... either blow up in America's face or just create terrible conditions for humanity around the world. I mean, a million Iraqis die trying to get Saddam. So I'm like, I don't really love it.

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With that being said, though, I look at the, you know, the countries in the region, in just the GCC in general, and... also just the nature of the regime in Iran. And I'm like, this is obviously bad. They're obviously oppressing their people. This is obviously a group of radical authoritarians that have co-opted Islam to basically oppress this entire country of 90 million people, which is bad.

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And I have so many Persian friends in America that are like, yeah, what's going on over there is terrible. Like this is this country should be liberated. And they're causing trouble in the region. They're sponsoring terror for not only Israel, which obviously is, you know, unpopular. People don't really care about that as much. But they're, you know, causing issues for the UAE.

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They're causing issues for Saudi Arabia and they're causing issues for America indirectly through, you know, controlling oil passage and all that stuff. So I feel weird about it. Like, it almost feels like a vigilante, like, killed a file in the streets. You know what I mean?

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Where, like, all right, you took out a bad guy, but you shouldn't be just, like, killing people without authorization, you know, et cetera. So I feel mixed about it. So I'm curious if you can help me distill my feelings about what's going on. Intervention always is a double-edged sword. Anytime you either do or do not use military intervention, there's going to be consequences.

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Some of them are going to be good. Some of them are bad. I'm not going to sit here and defend every military intervention that America has been involved in or every coup that we've supported. I think that... But at the same time, when our enemies and adversaries lose, a lot of times very beneficial for American interests.

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When the Soviet Union collapsed and the United States spread democracy throughout Europe, I think there's a strong argument that it's been in our interest. And in the Middle East, a lot of the interventions we've done there have been a complete disaster and have not been good for American interests and have ruined some of our standing around the world.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Iran's military actions in the region?

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Is that more or less what's happening? If I'm Iran, what I try to do is I try to destabilize things. Now it's at four confirmed U.S. service members have been killed and five injured as far as I know. And I think about a little over 500 Iranians have been killed in the war so far.

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And if I'm Iran, what I want to do is I'm aiming at all of the international airports in the region because those are what will cause the greatest economic problem. And this is what they're doing. They're targeting luxury hotels. They're targeting hotels. international airports.

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These are things that will shut down foreign investment in these countries and make it more risky to invest in these countries and make it, their goal is put so much, make it so difficult to align with the United States that you just kind of go, oh, I'm out. I'm out. Like this is going to be too much of a hit economically if this keeps happening.

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So they say that they've shut down the Strait of Hormuz, which is where I believe 20% of the world's entire oil comes through from Saudi Arabia, Iran. And I mean, really, it was going to be shut down anyway because there's a regional war going on. Like who's going to be trying to go through there when there's missiles going everywhere? Yeah.

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Chapter 6: How does Iran's strategy impact American interests?

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But that's shut down. That's why you see the oil market spike. So Iran, you notice they haven't shot down any US fighter jets and that might change tomorrow. Maybe they do, but they don't have the capability. They have no air force. They can't fight back by attacking conventional air power.

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But what they can do is an asymmetric battle, which is put pressure economically on all these Arab states in the region to the point where everybody wants they just beg for a ceasefire, basically. And then the regime stays in power and they're able to claim a victory. They get what they want. That makes a lot of sense.

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So yeah, if Iran is basically able to cause so much panic in the neighborhood, which is ultimately why Saudi and UAE, one of the main reasons they want the regime to be changed in the first place is that they're causing so many issues and funding so much local terror in the region that they're like, hey, these guys are causing a problem for us. We're trying to make money.

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We're trying to get foreign investment. And this radical regime is making that difficult in our neighborhood. So can you guys get rid of them? And in the attempt to get rid of them, if they make it so hot on the block, all of a sudden, UAE is going to be like, hey, Trump, just chill. Can we just do this in like six months because we're going to bleed out? Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.

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But America must have predicted this. Like the UAE must have known that, hey, in the event this happens, they're coming for us. Right before I got here, I think the news broke that Iran sent ballistic missiles at the oil infrastructure in Saudi Arabia. And so that's what we're talking about here. They're trying to put that squeeze on them.

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And like you said, yeah, that's their fundamental problem, which is that... You got the Houthis who have been firing missiles at Saudi Arabia's oil infrastructure for years now. And they would argue, Saudi Arabia would argue, that the theocracy in Iran is not a rational player entirely. That, yeah, they're rational. They're not like they're going to nuke Israel tomorrow for religious purposes.

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But that a lot of their funding of these proxies and their... fight is religiously motivated and not necessarily a pragmatic this is not hey let's do business and get rich in the Middle East with our oil it's we hate let's say we hate Jews so we're gonna arm these proxy groups to fight them

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Now, I will say Iran's argument would be that they are rational and that they hate the way the Palestinian people are being treated. And that's why they're arming those groups to protect the Palestinian people. So those are sort of the two arguments there.

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Iran would probably say Israel is an illegitimate state, that America put them there because they want to have control in the region, that this is actually really just American influence in the region meddling with our affairs. And they're always doing this to us. And if we don't get rid of Israel, then America is always going to have a foothold and we're never going to really be autonomous.

Chapter 7: What role does Epstein play in the current geopolitical landscape?

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And he had truth to it. And you're asking a very important question, which is like, should we be altruistic and be ethical or should we just do what's right for us? And the real mindfuck is at the end of the day, sometimes doing awful evil things can actually forego worse things. So the obvious example is dropping the nuke on Japan.

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Did that save a million Japanese lives in the future because we were going to invade Japan anyway? It's philosophical questions like that that are hard to parse out. Here's what I'll say about... how Iran made their big play, which was with October 7th. What I think they were hoping would happen from that was that Israel would essentially fall because they were hoping to open up a five-front war.

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They thought that by launching October 7th, then Hezbollah would also fight Israel and that...

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The Hamas would fight them and maybe proxy groups from other countries would put pressure and Egypt would would go against Israel and and maybe Israel be fighting a five front war and they would be annihilated or so messed up by it that no one would want to invest in Israel and no one would want to to live in Israel because they depend on that stuff so much. So that was their big play.

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And it didn't play out like they were hoping. And that's the danger of trying to make a big strategic play like that. I think it backfired and Israel has now wiped those groups out. And so my point with that is that If we're not playing to win, someone else will.

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And then at the end of the day, is it better that America is the top dog on top making the rules, the unfair rules, or would we want China to be on top making the unfair rules? And what would that world look like? That ultimately is the question to me, I think. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's a it's an interesting political question because like my knee jerk is like, hey, I want the president to go through Congress. I want the people in the government to vote on behalf of what the American people want and to ultimately do the bidding of the people and that we don't need to be meddling in all these foreign wars and doing all this intervention that eventually blows up in our face.

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We allocate all this money when we have real problems at home and like that's my feeling. And then, you know, I'm like, I would hope that that would work, but I don't know if we've really ever seen that. Like, America, since World War II, has never just, like, stayed home and worked on our problems. We've always been in some other type of, you know, military theater.

Chapter 8: How does propaganda influence American perceptions of foreign conflicts?

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So it's difficult to say if that's the best thing. That's my knee jerk. That's, like, what emotionally I would want. I think...

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As we get closer and closer to possible conflict with China, we'll see our government become more and more authoritarian in a way and more and more dictatorship in a way, I would think, because I think it's going to be more and more difficult to compete with them because China, they don't have to vote on anything with Congress.

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If they want to invade Taiwan, they'll do it because Xi Jinping says to do it. So how do you... compete with a power that has that ultimate say all the time. I mean, you see he's purged all of his generals recently to have complete control. You see we're doing something similar. We've, you could say, purged a bunch of our generals. We've gotten rid of a lot, even from like lower leadership on up.

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we've gotten rid of a bunch of military leadership that didn't agree with this vision of the future that the new administration has. I think we're seeing this in a lot of countries where they're sort of, like in Russia, they got rid of a bunch of leadership right before 2014, right when they went into Ukraine. This is what countries are doing.

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They're like, if you're not on board with what we're doing here, goodbye. Right. Yeah. There's no like, let's get a second opinion and talk this out. It's like what I say goes and we got to move fast and we got to be absolute because the other guys are doing the same thing. It's an interesting paradigm. World War II was similar.

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How FDR was in power for 130 years in World War II, we became almost like a dictatorship. And we were able to step back from it and undo a lot of that. But during these type of times, I think, of global power competition, it trends that way. Yeah. I wonder if Trump tries to use this to get a third term. Well, that is not out of the question.

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I wouldn't be beyond him, I don't think, and I don't think it'd be that surprising if it happened. Right. Yeah, it's such a tricky thing in your brain because there's what you think should happen, but then there's the real politic. You know what I mean? Yeah.

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like in my mind i'm like yeah everyone like animals shouldn't die we should all be vegan but then i'm like well people need to eat food you know what i mean it's like this sort of like this these competing ideas that exist in your brain where you're like there is something that is of like a higher moral standard that i can submit is probably the right thing but then there's the functional reality of living in a world with scarce resources that everyone wants that you have to be ruthless

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I truly, on a personal basis, I don't know. I don't know what the answer should be. I don't envy politicians, yeah, because I don't know either. It's a paradox a lot of times. Oh, this is an Epstein. Yeah, this is a link that Chris just pulled up. He says Epstein suggested that if Trump felt cornered, he might bomb Iran to spark a crisis and boost his popularity.

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