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TPUSA Wants Us To Stop Asking Questions About 9/10?! | Candace Ep 248

06 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Happy Monday, everybody.

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Chapter 2: What psychological strategy is referred to as 'David Hoggin'?

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Today, we are going to discuss, or rather, I'm going to introduce to you a psychological strategy that I refer to as David Hoggan somebody. You guys remember David Hogg of the Parkland shooting tragedy? Of course you do. Well, it seems like Turning Point USA is now engaging in this strategy of David hogging the public.

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And I wanted to be clear that it is downright manipulative, and I've really had enough of it. Frankly, what happened over the weekend is that their TP Action COO, Tyler Boyer, went on a little bit of an ex-binge. I don't recommend it, which was then highlighted by Alex Clark, who has a show over there on Instagram. And I think it's therefore fair for us to turn our attention back to them.

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So welcome back, Candice. So let me put it to you this way. I'll give you a different scenario. If at this very moment, McDonald's publicly announced that their CEO was stepping down and they were going to replace him with somebody else. nobody would care, right? There's not going to be any public outcry about them doing that.

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The average person doesn't even know who the current CEO of McDonald's actually is. But, however, giving you a different scenario, if out of nowhere McDonald's announced that they were getting rid of the Big Mac, that they were changing their French fries and they're doing away with their chicken nuggets, there would probably be a reaction to that. People would be pretty angry.

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It would probably start trending. And it's because the reality is nobody actually cares about the corporate structure. But if you change the menu items, that actually changes the substance of the company for people. A very recent example of that, by the way, is the Cracker Barrel scandal, which was hilarious, but it was a good point for everybody to learn, right?

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Corporates over at Cracker Barrel effed around and they found out pretty quickly that that that old man on the logo, that inanimate old man that was with the cracker and the barrel, actually had more meaning to the public than their entire corporate division. They were ready to just walk away from it all because they got rid of the old man and his barrel.

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Now, I raise this only to say that I have seen multiple political organizations within recent years Especially when money starts pouring in, right? There's this like arrogance that sets in and they start to delude themselves into believing that they're smarter than their customers, that they're smarter than their audience, so to speak, right? Like the magic is actually the corporate structure.

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Audiences, I want to be very clear, We'll catch a vibe pretty quickly. Audiences are smart. They're perceptive.

Chapter 3: How does TPUSA manipulate public perception?

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They will sense when something is off. And the harder that you try to convince them that their senses are not real and that they are imagined, the more obvious it actually becomes to them that their suspicions are correct. Something's not right. Now, to just keep up with the same analogy, Charlie Kirk was essentially the old man on the Cracker Barrel logo. People were invested in Charlie Kirk.

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We have, at this moment, no definitive understanding of what happened on the day that he was assassinated. But what we do know definitively is that the feds are lying to us. That is obvious. It is abundant. If you're able to think thoughts, you recognize that something is very wrong with the story that has been presented to the public.

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Chapter 4: What criticisms does Candace Owens face from a pastor?

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And I think that what the public doesn't understand, and I count myself among the public, is why it seems as though Turning Point USA executives, and I'll say seems, are not even remotely interested in challenging that official narrative. They're not interested in challenging it publicly, at least.

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In fact, I think it was an ex-user that pointed out, he put it rather bluntly when he said, so they want us to forgive Tyler Robinson, but to attack the people that are trying to solve the murder of Charlie Kirk? Like, that's not right. It doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel good. Threats of lawsuits. We're collecting evidence. What are we even talking about?

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And I want to say that what's been bothering me in particular is are the micro lies.

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Chapter 5: What evidence is there of media manipulation regarding Charlie Kirk?

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It seems that they're suddenly in the business of telling micro lies, tiny little misrepresentations, tiny little half-truths that right out of the gate seems altogether unnecessary. It really makes me wonder, who are they protecting exactly? You'll see oftentimes they and other influencers will invoke Erica as the reason that it's not appropriate to ask questions.

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It's just not appropriate while Erica is still mourning for you guys to ask any questions. And I'm just going to come back at you with some common sense. What sort of widow wouldn't want people to investigate the assassination of their husband? She has not explicitly said that, but the influencers are invoking that. Right.

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They're invoking like you just it's not appropriate right now for people to be asking questions. That's what I mean when I say they are David hogging us. OK, you could also use another example. Somebody that was on the right, Kyle Kushev. What essentially means is that when a tragedy takes place and we are all we are emotional, our emotions are raw. Me especially.

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I think this was the first time where I couldn't really check my emotions. I am just now like moving out of the grief stage emotionally. There will be people that then will try to manipulate you, right? They will try to manipulate you by using that strategy of saying, well, it would be really wrong. It would be really wrong for you to look beneath this layer or to ask a question about this.

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And, you know, it would be an injustice to Charlie Kirk's legacy, really. If you really loved him, then you shouldn't do this. OK, because the tragedy just happened. And they did this. David Hogg, you're not allowed to question David Hogg. He suddenly became an authority.

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And no matter what he said, we were kind of told by the journalist that it just made perfect sense and he should go to Harvard and whatever. Obviously, to the extent that anybody suffers and survives a school shooting, I'm with you. And I think that that's totally fair.

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But then when you go beyond that, it starts to feel a little bit like you're emotionally manipulating us and that you're actually trying to silence people who have valid questions or criticisms or concerns. That strategy, like I said, it worked on me in the beginning. I was definitely completely worked by it. And I was feeling like even though I knew that

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that they were telling white lies, that I should just allow it and to instead focus my entire attention on just unpacking the federal lies. But you know what? Over the weekend, I realized, actually, no, lying full stop is weird. It's weird after a tragedy. It is weird after someone that you purport to be your best friend. You're so close. Why are you telling micro lies about that person?

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And actually, by exposing those lies, perhaps it will reveal a bigger picture because what would motivate it? What would actually motivate it? Now, I'll give you just one example here and we're gonna get into some stuff that's rather bombastic if I'm being frank. But one example that I bit my tongue on a couple of weeks ago was when influencers randomly went on Instagram

Chapter 6: How does Candace Owens challenge the narrative around Charlie Kirk's death?

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But I want to again state that Charlie was not attending Rob McCoy's church. He was attending mass.

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So it registered to me again as somewhat disingenuous when Pastor Rob McCoy came out and effectively asked me to stop looking into all of the things that happened in the lead up to Charlie Cook's assassination, or at least asking me to pause it rather would be more fair of an interpretation until the memorial. I'm going to jog your memory here.

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Here is what Pastor Rob McCoy wrote on his Instagram after I exposed the now infamous Hamptons meeting, which took place. He wrote this, I want to simply say this regarding Candace Owens. Charlie Kirk was a friend to Candace and never publicly spoke poorly of her, although he disagreed with her. He never operated nor entertained gossip or innuendo concerning Candace.

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My only comment I offer regarding Candace is this. I only wish that at this tragic time of mourning, she would be the friend to Charlie that he was to her. He would never have treated Candace or her family in such a way had, God forbid, this tragedy been hers. All friend loves at all times. Proverbs. Now, I want to be very clear.

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If Charlie was a friend of mine, I sure hope if I was assassinated in front of the world that he would raise hell to figure out what actually took place in that day. That's not being a friend. A friend is not someone who stays silent when lies are being told by the federal government. That's not a friend. And again, emotionally manipulative.

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The family can't have you finding out who actually killed him. The family can't have you looking into those things of who was pressuring him behind the scenes. That's just, that's not good for the family.

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bothers me i have to be honest you that bothers me i don't even like that to the untrained eye he's kind of representing himself or representing charlie as like a current congregant congregant of his church I feel like a lot this year I have been feeling as though these pastors are just not as honest as they should be, right? Is that the vibe?

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Like a lot of pastors are not really so concerned with the truth is what I would say. So we should zero in here on Rob and what his motivations might be. Why did he decide to post this after I revealed that Hampton's meeting? Well, you should know, I think most people do, that both his son and his daughter-in-law work for Turning Point USA.

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So whether you want to represent that or not, they have a financial stake in the future of the company. He heads up the faith division. So Charlie's faith and what direction it was going into would actually matter, right? It would actually matter if Charlie, and I never said he was going to, decided one day to become Catholic. It would have financial implications.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of questioning the official narrative?

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It makes me think that in the same way that Charlie was being pressured by money, that you might be now run by that same money, that those same donors might be running you to correct the ship and to focus yourselves on eulogizing Charlie as something and someone that never once flinched, never once for a single second doubted the Israeli cause.

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Now they want us to suddenly believe the best way to honor Charlie is to shut up. The exact opposite of what he quite literally laid down his life doing. Answering questions, turning point. Answering the questions is what he was doing in the second that he died, okay? And we all feel, we all are feeling spiritually the same way. So I'm just going to say it. They're not grieving, right?

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Not up to us to decide how people grieve, but I will say unequivocally that you shouldn't grieve by lying or by gaslighting. Is that fair? Can we all agree? You should not grieve by lying and gaslighting the public. They want us to believe that the only way that we can support and honor Charlie's legacy is by donating our money.

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But it would not be supportive for us to try to figure out who killed him and why the feds are lying. We should instead just trust the feds and excuse their little half-truths that they're telling along the way. Now, on that point...

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They keep trying to make it seem like it's completely normal that four minutes after Charlie was shot, someone on their team nervously raced to grab the SD cards, specifically from the camera that is behind Charlie's head. And that was because during that time, I think it's like trying to make it normal that his instinct was to stand on Charlie's chair to actually violate a crime scene. Yeah.

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but also to mysteriously just grab the SD card out of the camera, right? not only are they pretending that that was completely normal, but they're also presenting it as though it was a heroic act. It was like a forthright, clarified act to do in that moment. And that anyone who uses their own eyes and sees it as maybe a little bit suspicious are just in the business of spinning conspiracies.

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Now, that's exactly what was communicated by Andrew Colvette when he sat across from Tucker Carlson, who was hosting Charlie's show, And gratefully, Tucker Carlson instantly responded with a much more sensible approach. Take a listen. By the way, just one other conspiracy theory I just want to snuff out here.

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One of our dear friends that literally from the very beginning started with us and loved Charlie like a brother, he grabbed the SD cards out of the camera. Afterwards, and there's all these conspiracy videos about why did he grab the SD cards? Well, first of all, they're in the possession of the FBI. OK, it's not like he took them and like ran off with them.

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Second of all, I asked him personally, I said, why did you do that? And he looked at me and this was his answer. He said, because I know people can be evil. And he did not want that footage being grabbed by somebody. There was videos of people after the incident going and stealing hats off the table. I mean, so I'm so grateful he did that and that that was his instinct.

Chapter 8: How does Candace Owens address the role of influencers in shaping narratives?

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The law enforcement officers asked them to turn them over immediately so they didn't get lost in commotion before he they took everyone into lockdown. Now that is just not true. That is not true. What Tyler was saying is not true.

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I spoke to that turning point individual, as I told you, and he never once mentioned that police officers, I explicitly asked him, why did you take the SD cards out specifically of the camera behind? And the answer that I was given was, which sounded more like what Andrew Colbett said. You know, I was emotional. I knew that Charlie was dead.

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And my instinct, he told me, was to make sure that I secured the footage so that Erica would not have to see it again. Like he didn't want Erica to have to see it and have to relive it. That is what he said to me on the phone. Nothing about police officers.

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No one's ever heard police officers ask them to secure the footage before lockdown until Tyler Boyer tweeted this weekend, I don't like it, okay? I just don't like it.

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Now, to be fair, Tyler is making it clear that he is responding to all of these tweets or exes, whatever you're supposed to call them, because there have been people, he says, that have flat out accused the organization of having a hand in Charlie's murder. He doesn't share when or where exactly that happened. I think people...

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feel you're being dishonorable by not questioning the narrative, but I haven't read anybody that's explicitly accused them of murder. In fact, the tweets that he's responding to all seem to be pretty fair, in my opinion. Now, regarding the missing campus footage, there is a user that begged Tyler to file an FOIA request, and that user wrote this.

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Please, I beg you, focus on getting the security footage of the sequence pre-jump off the Losey building where we can see Robinson in shot position and corroborate the story. Like file an FOIA, get that footage, keep it simple. And he responds and he says, guys, there's camera footage all over that campus that the police have, plus all the cameras that we had.

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They likely won't release it until the trial. Now, there's just one problem with that narrative, right? If they have all this footage and they're just not releasing it because they just want to, what, they're just worried about the trial, they want to make sure they win the trial. What's wrong with that narrative is the manhunt that took place.

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If indeed they have tons of footage from all these different angles and some of it in 4K, which they do, this is why we've been saying the feds are lying from day one, then the first time that that footage should have been deployed was during the 33-hour manhunt, right? Why didn't they release more footage at that time?

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