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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Canuck Central on a Monday coming to you live from the Kintec studio. Step strong with orthotics and footwear from Kintec. It's Satyar Shah with Bik Nizar. And this hour of Canuck Central is brought to you by your lower mainland Boston pizza. The playoffs are here and BP is ready. So skip the couch, catch every hit, every goal, every save, every playoff beard.
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Find them at three community locations or visit Dunbar Lumber online today. And we have a big show coming up. Frank Cervalli is going to join us in a few moments. We'll talk to Don Taylor coming up next hour as well. And we'll... Have some fun during the last segment. We'll do Soccer Central for the final segment of the show because, well, Canada is very much in the World Cup.
First result ever for the Canadian men getting a draw against Bosnia. On the board. We got one. On the board. Huge. Progress being made. Yes, some progress. And we have producers Josh, Lina, and we interned Nico on top of things, plus Arash. All hands on deck here today hanging out. And we'll chat with... Well, three of them are hanging out. One's hanging around. Hanging around.
We'll be bouncing again soon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Chapter 2: What led to the Carolina Hurricanes winning the Stanley Cup?
I see Alina's got the New York Knicks hat on. The Knickerbockers winning the NBA championship. What a weekend. Unreal. Unreal. And I mean, we'll get into it in the next segment. We'll talk about the Canes winning, of course, with Frank joining us. And we'll talk a bit about the Knicks winning because the Knicks winning is so fascinating on so many different levels. And we'll get to that in a bit.
Yeah, well, the Hurricanes as well, right? I mean, the storylines write themselves in many, many ways, but it seems like Vancouverites have really caught World Cup fever, doesn't it? It's happening. Yeah.
You just needed the tournament to start, right? It felt like a bit of a malaise getting ready for it, but... I mean, who wasn't out at the fan festival this weekend? All weekend, man. Some watch parties.
Somebody was probably at one. Yeah, something was going on all weekend. It was great to see. And it's fun seeing all the videos of all the fans hanging out on Granville Street, you know, doing the marches to the arena and afterwards as well. So it's been a lot of fun seeing the city come to life and be a great host, which we know the city can be. We saw it during the 2010 Olympics, of course.
Yeah, plus I hope everyone will, like, bleed by Friday's result.
Yeah.
Again, I know it's a draw, but it's like, hey, they're on the board. Now it's like... It's no longer just, oh, I hope they score a goal at the World Cup. Right? Because that was taken care of last time. And it's like, okay, now they just need a point. Well, that's taken care of. And so it's, the momentum is building.
Had there been a punch in the face in the first match, it's like, oh, no, still zeros.
Well, when they hit that crossbar, I was like, are we ever going to score? Like, I was really concerned. But then we got the tie, so I felt better about it. And especially with Switzerland and Qatar drawing their match. Mm-hmm. It's a four-way tie with all four teams having one point. We'll talk more about that as the show goes on.
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Chapter 3: How did the Hurricanes build their successful team?
How will he have a conversation with a Steve Iserman or, you know, pick an old school, long time general manager who played forever? How is Eric Tolsky with 27 patents going to be able to even have a conversation? And in the end,
made the tough choice to go with the guy who had been there, seen and done a lot of it, and built this team in a very specific way with Don Waddell to then have him continue on and be the general manager and would have lost him otherwise. So I just think watching that team, I think they're the true model franchise for how an organization is run. They're efficient. They run it like a business.
It's not... part of the toy department in a family empire. And when you see the success that Tom Dundon's had in almost every walk of life, a lot of other NHL owners have had similar successes. But I don't know that anyone's really dug in the way that Tom Dundon has
In the hockey ops side of it, not in a meddling way, but in a way of challenging and asking all the right questions to make sure that you arrive at something that makes a lot of sense.
Well, on that too, as far as like being the model, they've almost done things, obviously like... different than the rest of the league. And we discussed that over the years. But if you just go through like primary team building principles, you talk about the ownership spending. Okay, well, that's something that's been different. Even things of, oh, build through the draft and have top 10 picks.
Now, the only internal top 10 pick that they have is Svechnikov. Hall was external. Stahl was external. Kokuniemi, external. Ehlers, external. Retaining your UFAs, like sign those guys. Never let them walk. They've lost a bunch of guys through like prominent members through UFA and They didn't spend to the cap. You mentioned the trade deadline stuff.
Like they did a lot of things that were go against the conventional wisdom.
Because he asked questions. Then if the answer is, well, that's because that's always how we've done things. He'd say, that's crazy. Why are we doing it? Just because that's what people do. Why do we have radio broadcasters when no one listens to the radio anymore? People were upset about that.
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Chapter 4: What lessons can other teams learn from the Hurricanes' strategy?
so much money on broadcaster salaries when that's not what drives fan engagement. It was unpopular, but it was like, I want to devote resources to where the team is actually successful winning on the ice. I'll spend anything required for that to happen, but all the other ancillary stuff that doesn't have any impact on the true success of the team.
I have serious questions as to why we need to do those things. And so I, I think the vision is different. I think the coaching part of it is really at the root of all of it. Tom Dundon, and I'm not saying this, I don't even work with the company anymore where I did the podcast. Go back and listen. I did an hour-long podcast with him.
And he said, this was three years ago, Rod Brendamore will be the coach of my team for however long Rod Brendamore wants to be the coach. What owner says that? What owner is willing to shape all of their roster decisions around a position where most people get tired of and launch onto a tarmac in the NHL 2.3 years into the tenure? That's different.
And that's why I think it deserves consideration for being the model.
Yeah, and it's going to be fascinating to see how this does inspire teams across the National Hockey League. As far as the Golden Knights are concerned, what do you think is next for John Tortorella?
Great question. He said after the game, of course, last night, that he needs to swallow the loss. And I've seen a lot of people be critical since and say, well, maybe he should have made a goalie change at some point in the series, or maybe he should have switched up his lines or done something to try and turn the tide.
I felt like, at least from a goalie perspective, he was between a rock and a hard place. Not only was Carter Hart his guy, but beyond that, Aiden Hill is a big reason why their regular season was so average. So that, that was a tough spot to be in the guy that hasn't played in a few months.
And then when you're looking up and down your bench, but really only seven of the guys are going, how much line shifting can you really do? So I don't know that I view it as where the golden Knights, they just looked like a team at varying points that ran out of steam and And I don't think that's an indictment on the coaching at all.
There's been a lot of talk, of course, about Ryan Craig and his future in the organization. To me, it's a really clear and simple path. If you're a believer in Ryan Craig, make him the associate head coach to your team next year. Have John Tortorella be the mentor as the head coach, Ryan Craig be the mentee. And whenever invariably you get sick of John Tortorella and you want to move on,
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