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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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And keep your thoughts coming in to our Dunbar Lumbertex inbox, 650-650. We are going to be joined by Ian McIntyre coming up in a few moments. A lot of trades have gone down in the National Hockey League today. Some sizable ones. We're still waiting on something from the Canucks. Nothing yet in terms of a moderate to larger trade.
The Calgary Flames acquired Simon Nemech and Maxim Siblikov for two first-round picks and a second-round pick. Jordan Cairo ends up in Washington for Connor McMichael in the 16th overall pick and a little bit more. William Eklund and some other pieces go to the Ottawa Senators for the ninth overall pick. Is that everything? To the San Jose Sharks.
In terms of the sizable ones, that's a lot in one day. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot.
Three deals in one day.
Three, and all big deals. Yeah. And Brady Kachuk. First rounders. Yeah, Brady Kachuk. Is that a reflection as well of this year's draft class? You know, it's a great question, and I think it could be, but at the same time, the Florida Panthers traded the ninth overall pick for Brady Kachuk, and they're in a win-now window, and it's like Brady Kachuk, right?
Yeah.
The San Jose Sharks, the Ottawa Senators, that's the one you looked at and say, okay, well, would you not be better off just holding on to that draft pick potentially? But the thing with them is they're trying to compete after trading Brady, and they don't want to take a step back. So, you know, they're looking to flip that pick as soon as they can to try to make the team a lot better.
And all the other teams kind of hanging around here a little bit, they all have ambitions. There's only two teams in the NHL currently that are rebuilding, the Calgary Flames and the Vancouver Canucks.
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Chapter 2: What trades have occurred in the NHL before the draft?
Fourth may be dropping. Another trade happening. Very, very shortly here. Yeah. Ask and he shall receive as far as a dynamic NHL offseason so far. So, again, we'll keep an eye on that as it continues to develop.
Yeah.
That makes a lot of sense for Chicago.
That's interesting.
They kind of needed that age range of a player. Someone with some vet profile, but also potentially a very, very high-end guy. Mm-hmm. We'll see what that trade ultimately does look like if it comes to fruition.
Mm-hmm.
Very interesting. Yeah, I mean, again, I know people here are wondering, Bowen, it never made sense for the Canucks, but the Blackhawks makes a lot of sense. And then you kind of wonder, what do they do with their draft pick? How does that kind of fit into all this? So maybe one more big trade going down in the National Hockey League.
They have a lot of futures, right? They have a lot of 2027s. Yes, they do.
Let's go to the Able Auctions hotline and welcome in our next guest, Ian McIntyre of Sportsnet's Triple Threat, and he has a presentation of Vancouver Ready Mix. Hi, Mac. What's going on, man? How are you?
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Chapter 3: How do recent trades reflect on the Canucks' strategy?
It's like, whoa, I could have sworn we were three weeks away from praising patience.
Yeah, well, we all, listen, we all love our market. It's an unending adventure. And I think we know it keeps us employed because there is such a passionate following for this team and for people to listen to commentary on it and read stories about it. Uh, that's great, but it's never been, it's never been the most measured, uh, calculated market.
And so it, you know, I think there's going to be lots of things, uh, during this rebuild where people get impatient or frustrated and, you know, probably I'm just guessing I'm spitballing here that, but some of those people were sending those messages to your inbox by about why aren't the Canucks doing this? Why aren't they doing that? How come they've moved so slowly so far?
I think I love that one. That's my personal favorite these days. Like the, the general managers held office for what, about six, six weeks now, or why, why haven't they got all this completed yet? You know, I suspect some of those people feeling that way are the same ones who for years have been, I've been yelling for a rebuild and no shortcuts and do this properly. And,
So far, I can't really fault this new regime for making any mistakes because all they've done is go carefully. They seem to have made some good hires. That will be proven or disproven over time, but I like the people they've hired. In the second round, I love the people they hired in the first round, getting the Sedins and Ryan Johnson. And they're going to add...
a hell of a player and hopefully more than just one in this draft for their NHL team on Friday and Saturday. So I guess I would say, Bic, I'm not in the least surprised that there are some people upset that the Canucks aren't in on the trading frenzy or are taking, air quotes, so long to get this rebuild going.
Yeah, and I mean, you know, I get the impatience. I understand, like, fandom. You can go back and forth on these things. I'm more concerned or interested in what is actually going to happen and what's not going to happen. I know the Philip Peronic one's a big question. Would the Canucks look to move him?
But I think on everybody else, like, whether it's Jake DeBrusque, you know, Besser even, you know, EP40, there are other veterans... I think they're doing more than just listening. I think they're very active and trying to make these things happen at the same time. Like when I go through these Canucks veteran players, they all seem to have some sort of issue one way or another.
Like Bester still has a lot of term on his contract. You know, it didn't have the best season Pedersen. We've talked about his situation. Marcus Pedersen had his struggles last year and signed a big contract extension.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Ian McIntyre provide about the Canucks' rebuild?
But I don't think they're willing just to give away Pedersen to dump the contract. And that's just my feeling. I mean, he's still...
a you know 50 to 60 point guy who we know has the ability to do more i don't think any of us are expecting him to suddenly revert to a 90 point guy but you know he's a still a significant player in this league and so i think uh you know where they can get an asset back they're absolutely looking to get an asset back but there's there's a whole lot of factors in in all of these trades and
They're not easy to accomplish when, as you say, Sad, as you correctly point out, there's some asterisk or a yeah, but to every one of the guys that they're trying to move.
What is the most intriguing part of the next, I guess, 72 hours for you right now gearing up for the Canucks? Hmm. Cause, cause again, like there is the trade element, but like third overall kind of hangs over everything.
Yeah. I mean, I don't think, I don't think they're trading their third pick. Let's put it, let's put it that way. I, you know, they'd love to, they'd love to acquire more. They'd love another first round pick. Maybe there's some movement there.
You know, one of the things when you do have, uh, what we've seen in recent years, when you do have multiple picks, it gives you more freedom to package something. So, uh, and I'm just spitballing here, but if there's a guy that cannot, you know, they pick for third and then they pick 24th.
Well, if there's a guy that is available at whatever 15 or 16 that they can't believe he's still there and they, they got to have them. Well, they also have the first pick of the second round. They have, they have 33 and, and 41, you know, the, you can probably include some of those to make something happen if you want to go higher. But I think that, I think they worked really hard.
And we should acknowledge in this week, I think, the work that Patrick Alvin did to accumulate these picks. Because he left the Canucks, he left Ryan Johnson with something to work with. And especially going into a rebuild, there's some ammunition there to start. And I think the regime... fully understands how important that is and how precious those picks are.
So I'd be surprised if they did much that affected their draft position. Cause I think they're pretty, I think they're pretty excited with what they've got, you know, the, the three in the top 41 and, or sorry, four in the top 41 and the number three pick overall. I mean, that's, that's a pretty good starting point to add the players are going to need to help
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Chapter 5: What are the potential impacts of the upcoming NHL draft?
With Albert Smith, the reason I go him is because there's a ton of really good defensemen in this draft, but you have to swing on the one guy, in my opinion, that has the potential to be a number one defenseman.
There aren't many more outsider types in the NHL draft over the years, but this could be the guy that ends up being the more outsider of this draft class, and we could see him in Vancouver being a really, really important piece in the long term, and Viggo Bjork's in the same boat there.
It's been discussed a lot. The Stenberg-McCander are the two guys that could be in the NHL next year. I'm not asking of, like, oh, who is the one that's most likely to get the third guy in, and that's why he should be prioritized. Just in general, like... What is the timeline you look at in your evaluations for three to, say, 15 of that cluster of players?
What is the expected timeline for those guys?
It's a really interesting draft because you have some guys who I think could keep their head relatively above water next year. I think if Viggo Bjork was playing in the NHL next year, he could be a solid bottom six center because he's just smart enough, works hard enough, and if you kind of shelter him a little bit, it can work out. Albert Smith is kind of in the same boat.
I think Keaton Verhoff. isn't really necessarily there. Tynan Lawrence is close maybe. But I think once you get past Smith and Bjork, I think you're probably looking at at least a year with guys like Lawrence, Gustafson, Verhoff, maybe even Reed. But after that, it's probably two years realistically.
So it's going to be interesting because I don't think anyone outside of those two play in the NHL next year. But if I'm picking a dark horse, depending on where he gets drafted ā I could see a guy like Albert Smith getting brought over to the AHL for the start of next season and then possibly getting some NHL games towards the second half.
I know we've spoken about this before, but I really appreciate that your draft list is different than a lot of draft lists we see. It's not just one that kind of goes with consensus. Like you have your guide, you stick to your guns on him as well.
At the same time, we always see this with anybody who puts a list together, there are going to be players that you have relatively high that will go later. Who's a guy that you know you're higher on than perhaps the industry that could be an absolute home run of a pick, let's say at 24 when the Canucks have their second first round pick?
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