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Canucks Central

The Open: How Should the Canucks Manage their Defense?

16 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent trades have impacted the NHL landscape?

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It's a Tuesday edition of Canuck Central coming to you live from the Kintec studio. Step strong with orthotics and footwear from Kintec. It's Satyar Shah with Biknazar. In today's show, a lot coming up. We're going to chat with our good friend Will Scouch.

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scouching to check out what he has in store for us when it comes to the nhl draft which is happening next week we're just under two weeks away from the nhl draft we'll get into that we'll talk to shang pang who covers the san jose sharks about what their offseason looks like and what is next for that team in the canucks division led by mac uh macklin celebrini we always want to hear from you on the show so get your thoughts into our dunbar lumber text inbox 650-650

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Chapter 2: Who is actually rebuilding in the NHL right now?

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It's at halftime. Another banger between two teams that people would classify as so-called minnows, but they're putting on quite the show through the first 45 minutes.

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Non-traditional hockey markets? How about non-traditional soccer nations? They're crushing, man. The matches have been outstanding.

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The entertainment value has been significant. And we'll talk about some of this as the show goes on as well. England's playing their first match tomorrow, perhaps coming up. on the one to watch, England-Croatia. It always seems like England and Croatia end up playing one another in these tournaments. You need to have a foe. Yeah, right?

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So we look forward to chatting about that as the show goes on. But obviously our focus... That's actually like a...

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Chapter 3: What should the Canucks do with their defensemen?

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Gary Bettman's Dream World Cup. It's like all the same teams are playing each other all the time.

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Guys, great idea. Oh, man. But, you know, there's stuff happening in the National Hockey League. So let's get to the open, which is brought to you by FiberTech, your exclusive dealer of house or roll luxury plumbing fixtures. Visit their state-of-the-art showrooms and experience centers in Surrey, Vancouver, and Kootenai, or check out FiberTechBC.ca. Two trades have gone down today. Two? Two.

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Two whole trades. Now, neither are massive in terms of big star names, but also notable trades. One includes the Preds acquiring Ross Colton from the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for a couple of draft picks and a player. The Leafs traded Joseph Wohl and Sam Benoit to the Flyers. for Sam Erson, Emil Andre, and a third-round pick.

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Chapter 4: How can the Canucks maximize the value of their defense assets?

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And just looking at those trades and seeing them both go down, one thought just crossed my mind, and that was... Who's actually rebuilding in the National Hockey League? We looked at the Flyers as being a rebuilding team under Rick Tockett. They made the playoffs this year, won a playoff round. They look like they're pushing forward.

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And this trade kind of tells you a bit of a push forward trade, trading for a goaltender that is going to back up Dan Voldar, who's on the verge of getting a pretty big contract as well. And the Preds, who scooped Chris McFarlane from the Colorado Avalanche and hired Rob Blake.

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And we heard Barry Trotz talk over the past year and a bit that they're in a rebuild, retool, whatever you want to call it. But neither one of these trades are rebuilding type of trades. So it just made me wonder, Bick, looking at both these trades, is anybody rebuilding outside of Vancouver and Calgary?

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Well, the Nashville one. And I get that there's like continuation McFarlane coming from Colorado. Somebody's already acquired in Colorado. have some continuity to bring a guy over. But it is like an age 29 center who's turning 30 that you've given up a third-round pick for.

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Chapter 5: What role does Marcus Pettersson play in the Canucks' defense?

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That, to me, strikes me as a... Hey, what is actually our... mode of operation right now? Are you very much a team that's trying to scale back? And it's a point we've brought up as well with Frank over and over again. It's like, hey, they've got a lot of money invested here. They're paying Philip Forsberg $8.5 million for four more years.

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They're paying Stephen Stamkos $8 million for two more years. Marcia So, now there's been all the talk of getting out of that. I get it, but he's on the books for three more years, let alone Brady Shea, let alone UC Soros, who's got five years left on his deal.

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And to me, I look at this and it's like, okay, you can say you're all rebuilding, but we do always talk about like organizational commitment to your star level players and where they are at. Roman Yossi's got two years left on his deal. Do they just say, hey, why don't I just kick it down? Like, well, we'll just go for it for two more years here while we're paying a franchise legend.

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over nine million dollars and maybe we we maximize something for this star level player we've had who's still playing at a really high level yeah to me this looks very much like a have it both ways trade yeah it's it's not a huge cost but it's not the traditional it's like oh that team is rebuilding so they should be savoring third round picks right and so

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If the Preds make the playoffs, you have a guy like Colton who helps out, and you can look at it as, hey, you got a useful player at a pretty decent price who helps you push the puck forward this year and actually be a playoff team.

Chapter 6: Why is Philip Hronik crucial to the Canucks' future?

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And if you don't, well, if he has a good year, you can flip at the deadline. But for him to be a flippable asset, I'm not sure the... The juice is worth the squeeze because how much more are you getting for Ross Colton? He has to have like a really good season, probably get the be about 20 goals, play a physical style of hockey, be good as a two way player.

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And then if you play center even, then you might look at it and say, would somebody give you a second and a third? Would somebody give you a late first round pick if they fully retain? Is it just a way of kind of like trade up the draft board?

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Yeah, it's possible, but I think a lot of things would have to happen for him to be able to accrue that type of value and for them to get that type of return. So to me, this looks like a trade to your point about trying to be in the mix and then having a escape hatch where you get the value back, but you're not necessarily making hay on this acquisition in terms of a flippable asset.

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Yeah, that's the bit. It's trying to do both things at the same time, right? It's, hey, if we're good, we'll take it. What's the mandate? Is the mandate, it's like, hey, we're paying out all this money.

Chapter 7: What strategies should the Canucks consider for their blue line?

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We'd like to try to make the playoffs or coop some of the money back. Okay, well, here's a low leverage play or a leverage play that we can do. And if it doesn't work out, well, we've got... Off ramps. Yeah. If we retain $2 million on the AAV, maybe that gets us something that's a 2027 pick. And we can talk about like, oh, is it worth having the 2026 pick and a better draft class in 2027?

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Do you get a second rounder? Okay, that's an upgrade for a nominal fee. There's ways to maximize it for Nashville. But just like in the spirit of, okay, what are you actually trying to do? Because if it works for them, is it working even a beneficial outcome for them? Is it working essentially being a wildcard team?

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Yeah. Because that division, I'm not sure you're unseating Minnesota, Dallas, or Colorado unless something really falls apart.

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Chapter 8: How does the upcoming NHL draft affect the Canucks' decisions?

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They look like the three heavies. So it's very much getting into a wildcard spot. Now, you can talk yourself into believing and whatnot, but from a Canucks lens, this is not a trade I want to see the Canucks do. And to their credit, not looking to do and haven't made. But this is not a rebuilding trade to me. This is a move where you're not 100% sure about where you're at and where you're going.

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You want to make your team better and have the escape hatch, but that's not a pool the Canucks should be swimming in.

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Is it also a statement of Nashville having, the pick volume that they do that they can explore this idea again if it goes poorly can you flip this into a second rounder and is this utilizing their draft capital this year to try to maximize the value now we had that conversation about okay how do you maximize third overall not just oh pick the best player how do you just like go about the task of

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making this the most valuable selection. For Nashville, they're just looking at this saying, we have a surplus of picks. How do we maximize this opportunity? Is it trade for a guy? If he helps us get to the playoffs, there's a financial windfall to that. If he's just good enough that we can flip him because we're not good enough, there's a future benefit to that as well.

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I do wonder if from that approach, okay, you're exercising options because you have a surplus of draft picks. But on the face of it, is there like, hey, this is a 45 game sample that you're saying, hey, I wonder what happens. That's kind of like the tone of it.

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Yeah, that's what it seems like. And I went back and I kind of listened and read some of the quotes from Chris McFarlane's introductory press conference. And he did hedge a lot about like, hey, we're not that far away. We have some, you know, we have some pieces here. We have some building blocks. We can make some smart decisions.

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But, you know, did not mention the word rebuild and taking time and being patient. And I think this kind of tells you it is a more aggressive move for a team that's kind of in the murky middle still to some extent. Do they have to pick a lane? That's a conversation for the press to figure out and their fan base for the most part on the flyer side of things.

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At the end of the day, he's a third-round draft pick. Emil Andre is a player who was very much... becoming persona non grata with the Flyers organization. So it's not really a needle-moving trade, but that's not a trade a team that's rebuilding makes.

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That's a move a team makes that wants to shore up its goaltending and wants to just make sure that they have fewer holes they can be exposed at, especially considering Sam Erson was one of the worst goalies in the league last year, at least some of the numbers were really terrible, that you are so concerned about taking a step back that you're shoring up your goaltending position.

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