Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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The Habs have a chance to punch through a ticket. The Edmonton Oilers are done. Out. It's over. They couldn't stave off elimination? Nope.
My favorite word.
No, they did not stave. None. They didn't stave anything.
Man, they have not staved. They have not saved for the future either.
Nope. No saves and no staves. That's perfect. That's nothing. That's the Oilers story. Yeah, that's a tough one. Tough one for the Edmonton Oilers. Oh, well. Oh, well. Oh, well. I mean, you know what? We'll get to it coming up in a few minutes because a lot of these things can tie into the entire ecosystem across the National Hockey League with... some of the movement that we might see here.
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Chapter 2: What happened in the playoffs with the Edmonton Oilers?
Like next year is kind of the last time. Also because, as you pointed out, well, the cities were locked in. Conor McDavid's not locked in. He has two years left. It's two years left. So he'll probably give one more honest effort.
Yeah, but is it not almost like the Quinn Hughes situation with the Canucks all over again?
But you can't imagine Conor's going to sign the deal, have it not even start, and not even give one year of that deal.
I mean, I think Quinn's intention was to give one year. Right. And then it all went pear-shaped. And he's like, you know what? I'm good. Let's get this going right now.
I think there'll be one more true attempt. I think they'll have another... Will it be a fruitful attempt?
I mean, you can give it the attempt all you want, but was it not telling when McDavid himself last night said, we were never a contender this year? If you have that same feeling next season... How do you push forward? How do you have success as a team?
I'm not saying that they have a lot of solutions forthcoming, but they're likely a playoff team again, right? When you've got those two guys. Well, they should be. You're likely a playoff team again. So I just look at that and I say, like, they'll have another playoff run or a playoff appearance. Can they will themselves to another run? Like, I do think it's just it's taxing going through this.
And I look at, like, what happened in 2011. It's a great reference of, like, that run was so taxing by the end of it. Like, getting over Chicago, the whole Boston series. We'll talk to Yannick about that coming up in 25 minutes. Like, how much did what happened in 2011 impact what happened in 2012 and then moving into 2013? Like, was there a chance to fully reset?
I kind of think they'll have one more true kick at the can and then everyone goes through an offseason. If they have success, okay, different realities. But if they lose again, and especially in this manner... that's Connor going to the final year of a deal. It says, you know what? It's been fun guys, but now I'm over 30.
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Chapter 3: Is the Stanley Cup window closing for the Oilers?
So they don't necessarily need big assets to solve big problems because they've got all the goals in the world. They just need better defense. But is coaching the one?
I think coaching is probably going to change. Or... At least you go into... Or maybe he has a very short leash going into next season. But I'm not sure the team is strong enough overall to put themselves over the top next year. That's my biggest question. It's like, do you have enough supporting cast players? And what are you getting out of Trent Frederick?
A lot of bets they've made haven't worked out for them. And it's just... They find themselves in an impossibly difficult position all of a sudden, and the future of the organization as far as Conor McDavid staying hangs in the balance going into the offseason. Have they failed Conor McDavid? Have they failed Conor McDavid as much or more than any franchise has failed a true elite-level star?
We've seen it in sports in the past, right? Even if you go back to... you know, other sports or go back in hockey, for instance. I mean, you can make this case with the Canucks that they failed the Sedins, although I don't think the Sedins were necessarily at Connor McDavid's level. They got to a cup final. Are we being too harsh considering they went to back-to-back cup finals?
Because they made it to multiple. And look, a big shout out to our guy, Jabo Vancouver, who sends in...
messages into the mailbag and for overrated underrated basically just ripping this up from his post yesterday but like it got me thinking and it's like I think the number one guy is Dan Marino I've always thought about Dan Marino is like you got to the one Super Bowl in his first year never made it back like at least McDavid has dry sidle or they got to two back to back up final struggle to think of like the next best teammate for Dan Marino
Is it Zach Thomas at the end of his career? Is that it?
No, I mean, if you go back, I think one of the best players ever to not win a Stanley Cup is Marcel Dion. You can say that he was probably one of the best stars who was let down by their organization. McDavid's a better player, I'd say, overall.
It's the next level, right?
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Chapter 4: What does Connor McDavid's future look like with the Oilers?
The next level of it.
Now, again, I do feel, if you get to two cup finals and don't win one, I think Yes, you can blame the management team for not putting together a strong enough team and making some wrong bets and whatnot. But if you get the two finals back-to-back, you got yourself to that moment. You got where you needed to get to.
Yeah. And other prolonged runs, too. They've been close multiple times, not just the finals.
No, for sure. But the thing was... did you have a strong enough team or all you built was a two or three year window? If you're the best player on the planet and one of the best players of all time, if all you can pry open is a two or three year window, you probably haven't done enough because those players in and of themselves should be good enough to get you to at least one cup final.
Like if you have Mick David on your team with Dreisaitl, even if you have the worst management, you'll probably get to one cup final because of how good those guys are. You give some credit because they got to two. But if you look at where Edmonton finds itself, I don't think there's any way to look at it other than they failed.
to take advantage of the greatest player, the second greatest player in franchise history behind Wayne Gretzky and one of the five best players of all time.
And also, in such an obvious, spectacular fashion.
Yeah.
How many years have we sat here and said, goaltending, goaltending, goaltending, goaltending, goaltending, defense, goaltending. And they've doubled down. Like, they've... And I've said this before. Raven's texting in, Vic. You're trying too hard to play devil's advocate here. I've said, like, they... Last year, I've said they've probably missed their best window.
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Chapter 5: Could big trades happen this off-season?
Like the best player on is Alex Tuck and then it's like a steep drop off afterwards. But the trade market, could that be where we see some true fireworks this year?
We chatted to Frank on Monday, and he was saying, you know, I know we say this every year, but I kind of feel like this could be a big year as far as the trade market. You know, the thing with the eight-year contracts that we've talked about, it makes things difficult to move guys because you want to sell the guys when they're at their lowest.
Like, if everything was rosy, no one's like, oh, wow, selling high in this play. Teams don't really do that when they want to sell high. But when you're locked in, for example, here in Vancouver, we're talking about Elias Pedersen. It'd be a lot easier if he was performing. Then you could say, oh, there's all sorts of options.
But when you're looking at six more years on a deal, it's like, oh, this doesn't look really good. Does the market now, after so many years, say, hey, we're locked into these ideas. Do we have to just trade six years for six years elsewhere? And do we see those types of deals manifest here? Is that the benefit of these long-term deals as the cap escalates as well?
Yeah, I mean, you would, in theory, be able to get a haul for those players, especially if they're signed long term, because there are just no other avenues for you to get those players. And it's hard to convince guys to sign with your free agency to begin with or them getting there in the first place. A lot of reaction on text inbox.
This one says, guys, I got to go out with my girl in 13 minutes. What's the GM search update? Well, since you texted in and since you're busy, you know, we have to change the entire plan of the show because you got to go see your girl in 13 minutes. Well, I mean, I think everybody kind of heard what Elliot Friedman had to say today, right?
He mentioned how, you know, obviously there are certain names that are very much involved and still very much in the situation. like Evan Gold, for instance, you mentioned his name is out there. We've heard different things about certain individuals who may or may not be part of the process. And there's been lots of back and forth in terms of the things that have been said. Now,
All I can say is the stuff that I've heard and in terms of where things are at. And I don't think things have changed dramatically from what I mentioned yesterday. Now, it can obviously change and whatnot. But like I mentioned, Evan Gold and Brett Peterson, from what I've heard, are both legitimate candidates. I can't say they're favorites.
I can't say they're very high on the shortlist or on the shortlist. But I do know that Brett Peterson did impress the organization in interviews. Now, the thing with Peterson, and I know... Dolly mentioned he heard that he may not be a... Somebody told him, he said on Halford & Brough, that he's not a serious candidate.
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Chapter 6: What is the current status of the Canucks GM search?
Be consistent. Moving up six spots and drafting second are the Florida Panthers. So both teams retain their picks. Oh, gross. Yeah.
Oh, gross. I didn't like that. And the Canucks pick third after Florida and Tampa. I mean, Toronto. Gosh. Did not like this.
One more to go. One and a half.
Jeff was like, red shirts on Tuesday.
Yeah.
You know what? Okay. I was getting ready for the show today. And, like, I had a stressful moment. Because, like, we put out the video on social yesterday. And I said off the top of the show, like, this isn't going to go well. Two red shirts. All the comments to the video posted on social were about the red shirts. I don't think anyone listened to what we said.
It was just, nice work uniform, guys. Yeah. Was this a plan? It really wasn't a plan. And so today, getting ready, I...
consciously had to like try to figure out what you might wear you know what the funny thing was I was going to wear a gray shirt and you're wearing gray and I'm like you know what I want to wear blue I'm like he's not gonna okay see I picked up a blue shirt and I tossed it away for a gray that's hilarious that's so funny because I was gonna wear a gray shirt I'm like you know I'm just gonna do blue yeah like I can't and I and I'm like I'm a neutral and I wasn't gonna call you and or text you and ask you because I'm like who asks the co-workers like what you're wearing but genuinely like I got messages like why'd you both wear red yesterday it's like
Things happen, man.
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