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Chapter 1: What are the implications of Jim Hiller's hiring for the Maple Leafs?
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And of course, he'll have great insight having worked closely with Ryan Johnson and Manny Malhotra in Abbotsford as well. So lots to chat with Chase about at 1.30.
Chapter 2: How does Jim Hiller's coaching style impact roster decisions?
But all of that means right now, let's go to the whiteboard.
All right, fellas, let's focus up.
It is your daily deep dive into what's up with the Canucks and the rest of the NHL. We'll start with the headlines. And again, we're in off-season mode now around the NHL, Drancer. And today, two coaching vacancies filled around the NHL. Which one do you want to start with? So Jim Hiller.
So Ryan Craig gets promoted from the AHL team in Vegas to the Vegas Golden Knights for placing John Tortorella. Jim Hiller, formerly of the LA Kings, hired out of nowhere seemingly to coach the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Yeah, I feel like the Golden Knights news was just moving on from Tortorella. And, you know, Ryan Craig, it was pretty obvious it was going to be him. Yeah. And I mean, you know how I feel about that profile, right? The good American League coach ready to take over a team.
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Chapter 3: What is the latest news regarding Marcus Pettersson's future in Vancouver?
Those guys generally are pretty good. And that Henderson team has generally been pretty good. So I like that bet. That's, you know, a very Malhotra coded bet. I was thinking about it in the context of Malhotra a little bit today where it's like, You know, when the Carolina Hurricanes traded for Keandre Miller, a lot of the reaction was that's a big price to pay.
And my reaction was Keandre Miller is perfect for how they play. But I was able to make that conclusion or come to that analysis because I'm familiar with their game. Yes. The... In the case of the... in the case of Manny Mahotra, right?
It's like, I don't, the Canucks might make some moves and I'm not going to necessarily like it or we're not going to necessarily like it or the price is going to look off or the value is going to look off, but it actually makes sense with how they're going to deploy or how they're going to play.
You know, they can plug in a one read defenseman and get one of those Nico Mikula, Keandre Miller type outcomes that another team wouldn't. Seth Jones in Florida would be another example, right? We're not going to know some of that stuff.
Chapter 4: How does rebuilding affect a player's outlook and performance?
Like I think Malhotra is a good bet. I think Ryan Craig's a good bet. But until I see, you know, in a second period that they're trailing by two, they come out of a TV timeout and put their fourth line on the ice in the offensive system for an offensive zone start.
Like until I see that and I'm like, oh boy, there's going to be a learning curve here or see them use guys and have the right guys on the ice consistently. You know, you don't really know. Which brings us to Jim Hiller. I would say, I don't know, on my power ranking of NHL coaches the last few years, where would you rank Hiller for me? Oh, for you? Very near the bottom. Above Greg Cronin?
Probably below Greg Cronin.
So better than Greg Cronin. Better than Greg Cronin. Better than Adam Foote. Yes.
Chapter 5: Why does trade speculation intensify around the NHL draft?
Trying to think who else has drawn your ire. Torts. Sure. Lindy rough, but I would never.
Oh God. No kidding. That's a good one. That's a good show. Thank you. Lindy rough. That's bad. Um, yeah. Okay. So, but my point is not a huge list. No.
Chapter 6: What are the potential outcomes for Elias Pettersson leading into draft weekend?
Anyway, I think Jim Hiller leaves a lot of money on the table. Uh, he had one of the historic, like I thought no one would ever have a worse playoff series than Willie Desjardins had against the Calgary flames in 2015 until I saw Jim Hiller's work against the Edmonton Oilers in 2024. Um, He gave away that series. It was shocking.
You know, I look at the... I mean, the Kings have all those defensemen that I like to laugh about, like the redundancy of the Ken Holland blue line, where it's just like Dumoulin and CeCe and Goodbranson. And, you know, Goodbranson's not even on the team, but he spiritually is. And all those player types. And then you look at, like, the minutes...
and all of them played more than Brant Clark, right? And the Kings were just like hopeless, like had no chance of scoring a goal in the non-Clark minutes. I mean, imagine playing, not that Brant Clark's Quinn Hughes, but like, You know, one thing you got to give a guy like Travis Green credit for is Quinn Hughes came into his squad and he was like, oh, boy. Yeah, he recognized it immediately.
Let's play this guy like he's our number one defenseman, even though at that point, too, it should be noted Quinn Hughes wasn't defensively what he's become now.
Chapter 7: How do player relationships with organizations influence trade decisions?
He wasn't constantly keeping it clean and in on guys' hands and getting out of his zone quickly. There was a lot given up down low to Jacob Markstrom's left as opposed to the right because he had Kristanov helping him out than there was later on by the time Quinn Hughes was executing talk at hockey. My point is...
so many games you'd see against the Kings and they're trailing narrowly and it takes them too long to sort of break glass and start playing Fiala and by field and, um, Kempe, like they're the top line or playing them together. Remember that Canucks game that they won in LA where they didn't go to that line until the third period. And then they immediately took it over and like tied it up.
It was like a three, one Canucks lead. Kings were just, um, poorly deploying their lineup. Finally, they unite this first line. They just run rough shot over the Canucks for 20 minutes, tie the game and then lose an overtime. It's just like, what are you doing, man? What are you doing? Like Jim Hiller had just so much loose change left in the couch cushion game after game that I saw.
And a lot of Toronto copers are going to point to like the King sparkling underlying numbers during his tenure.
Chapter 8: What lessons can teams learn from the current NHL dynamics?
But McClellan did better. Todd McClellan, who, by the way, I also don't really rate. got more out of that team from a two-way perspective. When they fired Jim Hiller and brought in DJ Smith, DJ Smith got as much from an underlying perspective as Jim Hiller. And I also don't rate DJ Smith. You know, like, DJ Smith probably did...
was probably an upgrade when the senators hired Jacques Martin, much less Travis green. Who's like leveled that team up significantly in terms of their two way form. So yeah, no, I, I don't get it. I thought John Shaco was on a pretty interesting run. Like I was like, Oh, am I going to have to eat my words? Like I like getting that free third round pick and getting out of Justin hole.
I liked poaching Judd bracket. Basically he cribbed my idea, right? Yes. You know? So I, so I loved that. I thought that was really sharp. Um, But this one is baffling to me. I don't get it.
In some respects, and I might be stretching here a little bit, it feels a little Adam Foote-coded to me. And the reason I say that, in some ways, that's very unfair to Jim Hiller because his resume as an NHL assistant, he's an NHL head coach, and whatever you think of his work, he did it for parts of three seasons. Longtime Babcock assistant, longtime Trotz assistant.
Longtime WHL head coach, right? Unlike Adam Foote, who didn't last there. So it's actually unfair. But I just... He was an assistant on Babcock's staff in Toronto, and I wonder if there is some sort of really positive pre-existing relationship with Austin Matthews, right?
Because so much of the Adam Foote hire was driven by Quinn Hughes really likes this guy, and the Leafs are going into that phase with Austin Matthews of the, will he stay? Will he ask for a trade? Are they going to have to move this guy? We all know where they finished in the standings this year, and I wonder how much of it is
We're up against it from a roster-building standpoint here with all of our problems on the blue line. Now, we did get the first overall pick, and that's incredible, but there's only so much we can do to make this team competitive is the best we can do in our coaching hire to kind of throw a Hail Mary and bet on a personal relationship to keep this star.
I don't think it's going to work, but I do wonder if that plays into it at all, because otherwise it just seems so underwhelming.
It's a pretty fascinating dynamic we're seeing around the league as players begin to exercise more power over where they play. You know, and this is sort of the culmination. I know everyone's going to point their fingers at the U.S. Olympic team.
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