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Chapter 1: What does Louise McSharry cover in this episode?
Hello, my friend, and welcome to Catch Up with Louise McSharry. This is the podcast where I do my best to keep you caught up with what's going on in the world. On Monday, we talk news. On Wednesday, entertainment. And on Friday, we talk reality TV. And oh my God, guys, did I pick potentially the worst possible time to go on holidays.
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Chapter 2: Why was the timing of Louise's holiday significant?
All the summer house stuff coming to a head, the finale and the first two reunions happening while I was off or certainly the first reunion. I was gutted and I didn't even get to see them until last week. So it has been quite a whirlwind of trying to catch up with all of the television.
And today is definitely going to be a summer house in the city heavy episode, which I'm sure feels appropriate to you, given the fact that everything's been going on. And it's been great TV, hasn't it? I mean, there's just no two ways about it. It is absolutely fascinating. Like I loved Summer House anyway. I thought the cast was incredible anyway, but all of this drama has certainly added to it.
And in the city, the spinoff of Summer House could not have picked a better launching time. And we're going to get into all of it, but I suppose that we should just really start with the summer house finale, which I thought was really good and, you know, really moving in the context of everything that was going on.
Chapter 3: What emotional moments were highlighted in the Summer House finale?
Like, obviously, the entire season we're building up to summer. the end of Amanda and Kyle's relationship. We went into the season knowing that Amanda and Kyle's marriage was going to be ending after four years. We have watched them for 10 years on this show, coming to not this house the entire time, but coming to this house and a similar house for weekends through the summer.
And there was a lot of kind of nostalgia about this episode, I think particularly how it ended as Amanda was reflecting on all the time they spent there. But every single thing that happened in this episode felt... so loaded with emotion because of the fact that we knew already what was going to happen.
And I suppose that's the struggle for a show like Summer House at the moment is that the timelines are so all over the place that they're really having to edit very cleverly and approach the show. And In the City is the same very cleverly to make sure that it feels relevant still when we know what's going to happen. Do you know what I mean?
Because ordinarily, obviously, we watch these shows, we don't know what's going to happen. Sometimes we do. You know, we knew that Karen Huger got, you know, arrested. We knew, you know, there's, we knew Jen Shah got arrested. You know, bits and pieces, but you don't normally know all of it. And we really, the timeline of this is,
Because this show was filmed almost a year ago, you know, it really is a weird one to know so much of what's going to happen as you're watching. But I actually think that the production team have done an amazing job of putting things together and editing and making it feel really relevant and showing us little bits and pieces of things that are relevant to what the fallout ends up being.
So basically, we enter into this finale episode. Amanda is refusing to talk to Kyle.
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Chapter 4: How did Amanda and Kyle's relationship evolve during the season?
He has been a jerk in the previous episode. And he's kind of pursuing her for a conversation throughout the whole episode. And she's denying him that. I think one of the struggles is when you're watching it, you kind of want to... Like you want to be on Kyle's side, basically, because we know what's happened.
But the reality is we can't be blind to the fact that Kyle did some pretty bad stuff in their marriage. Kyle did some pretty bad stuff in these episodes. Like it's not okay to tell your wife to fuck off across a dinner table when you're sitting with other people. I mean, it's not okay to do that really ever. It's not okay to, you know, treat her the way that he has treated her for years.
But that almost gets lost in the knowledge of the way that the relationship ends.
and and I did have some genuine sympathy for him in this episode you know when you're pursuing a conversation with someone that you love when you're trying to make peace and someone is completely denying you of that it is sad and I thought that the conversation that Sierra Sierra once again being just the best the conversation that Sierra had with Kyle was really valuable like I feel like she was very clear with him about his fuck-ups in a very like sympathetic way at the same time
you know because Kyle's issue has always been his inability to express himself like that's always been the problem he doesn't know how to express his feelings and then he gets shit-faced and then they come out in the worst possible way so Sierra says to him are you going to lash out and go after your best friend and then say fuck you to people you create irreparable damage in the process of this because your words do hold weight and a lot of people get cross caught in your crossfire i.e.
Carl because they'd had that big fight in the previous episode of what you're actually mad about and it makes it hard to be your friend And he listens to her. I don't know. He has some like weird connection. Not weird. I mean, I would have a connection to Sierra as well. But he has a real connection to her. He really seems to respect what she has to say.
He seems to really admire her and respect her.
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Chapter 5: What insights did Sierra share about Kyle's behavior?
And so he listens to her. And he doesn't really listen to that many people. But he kind of takes it on. And so...
In general, between him kind of trying to get that conversation done with Amanda, knowing he's vulnerable, him, like, taking Sierra seriously in the things that she says, you kind of do... You are coming to Kyle with a bit of a... More of a sympathetic, I think, perspective than in previous seasons and in previous episodes. I mean, I entered into this season being like, I hate Kyle Cook.
Like, basically, he's dead to me. And I don't feel that way anymore. I've definitely softened. I've had to really recalibrate my perspective on lots of people on this show over the last season because... Guys, if there's one thing I am, it's gullible. I will, you tell me you're nice. I'm going to take it. I can believe it.
Chapter 6: What were the notable conversations during the reunion?
I mean, in real life, it's a bit different, but on TV, you know, I'll take what you're selling. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I'm suspending disbelief, but I've had to be a lot more critical in this season of Summer House. There were other really valuable conversations that happened in this episode as well.
I loved, loved and have loved the Carl and Lindsay like healing that we've seen happening. Obviously we'd seen that scene with Lindsay and Carl's mom in soft bar where it became clear that Lindsay was really upset with Sharon and the way that she had not communicated with Lindsay after the end of Carl and Lindsay's relationship. And yeah,
You know, I can kind of understand where she was coming from. I thought she was a little bit cold, but Sharon didn't necessarily need to be that cold.
But I thought it was interesting that it turns out that one of the things that Lindsay was mainly upset about with Carl and with the end of the relationship was that she didn't feel like he gave her enough time that he, you know, she felt blindsided, even though... I think many of us would say there were many signs that things weren't going well.
But she felt blindsided and then she felt, I think, abandoned by him. You know, this person who had been her best friend for years long before they'd been romantic. And I think she really felt like he owed her conversation at least and he didn't give that to her. And I think it was great that she was able to calmly express that to him.
And that he was able to take that on board and say, yeah, you know, I should have done it differently.
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Chapter 7: How does the show In The City connect to the Summer House drama?
I didn't do it the best way. And then to acknowledge that she was such an important person in his life. He said, you made me a better person and I'm forever grateful for that. I loved it. And I also loved that it happened in an igloo. Because where else would you be having these conversations?
Where else in the world would you be having a conversation with your ex-fiance to resolve years of trauma and pain than in an igloo, in the back garden, in the summer, in the Hamptons wearing ski gear? That's where all good conversation should happen.
I also thought we got a bit of honesty from West in this episode, probably more honesty from West than we've had in a while where he's talking to Ben and he's talking about Sabrina. I'm like, there's this whole thing going on in the internet about Sabrina at the moment, but, and I don't want to like pile on, but I do. I know I said it before on, on this episode, but like, I don't want it.
She's so in everyone's mind.
stuff you know what I mean she's super familiar with everybody it feels like I'm super involved in every situation she has her finger in every pie kind of wilds me I don't fully understand it but Wes says to Ben if Sarah and I are together and Sabrina is there tell her not to try and make us date each other in the moment we are so many steps away from that point and I just want to chill for a second and like I think that's if only he had been able to maintain he says I'm not trying to portray that I'm a boyfriend that's not what I'm doing
Like, if there's one thing we know about West at this point, it's that he doesn't want a relationship. He doesn't want to be a boyfriend. He doesn't want to be a grown up. Like, he showed Sierra that the first time and now he's shown it again.
That's, I think, why I find it so confusing and kind of unfathomable that he would decide to go for a relationship and to go for a relationship with Amanda.
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Because his line the entire time has been that that's not what he wants. He wants to be on the streets. He wants to be spreading his wild oats, sowing his wild oats, whatever that expression is. It just doesn't seem like he wants a relationship. So to have a relationship and to have it be this one that's starting in such utter chaos. Makes no sense to me.
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of the new series, The Valley, on the cast dynamics?
I don't know mate, we'll come back to that. Staying in the season finale, I thought as well, Ciara gave Amanda such a good talking to, like a good loving friend talking to, of talking to that Amanda has needed to hear for a very long time. Like we've seen these kinds of firm, clear conversations happening between Ciara and Paige and Amanda a couple of times over the seasons.
But Sierra basically was like, if you're not going to do anything about this, you have to stop crying about it. She said, bitch, we're not going to cry about it and not do anything about it. You are in charge of your own life and you need to stop letting life happen to you. And I was like, yes, correct. That is exactly what needs to be said. And she says it and it seems to hit home with Amanda.
And I'm like, what a great friend, obviously crying into my hula hoops about the fact that, you Amanda has this whole thing. She's like, we, I just want us all to jump into the pool like we used to. And it has this really like tragic feeling because obviously we know it's all about to go to shit. Like it is all about to go to shit and everyone is going to be hurt by it.
And I think that's something that's been really markable seeing just how everyone is hurt. But again, I'll come back to that in a minute. We finished the episode. Obviously everyone's packing up and leaving. We have that beautiful heartbreaking moment between Amanda and Sierra and Where Sierra tells her that she's brave and she's smart and she can do it. And Amanda's like, I have great friends.
I just want to punch her in her face. I'm sorry. In this scene, that was my instinct. Obviously not really. I don't promote violence. I would never be violent. But in that scene, I was like, shut the fuck up, Amanda. You do have great friends and you're about to ruin it. You're about to ruin it. You are about to ruin it. And did you ever really care? That's the question that I have.
But anyway, they have this gorgeous moment and they touch fingers and they say goodbye. And then it's Amanda and Kyle. And if what has happened subsequently had not happened, I would have been really impressed with Amanda in this conversation. I think she was brave. I think she was firm. She managed to like keep it together. And I was impressed with Kyle as well. Like he accepted it.
You know, obviously she wasn't suggesting that they separate properly, but she was saying, you know, we need a bit of space. We have to do things differently. This is not working. And that like obviously needed to be said. I thought it was interesting that they went, she went to a hotel for a few nights and then they just, you know, moved back in.
Because obviously that's not really going to make things change. And all of the lines that she was feeding him about, because we see this in the city, we'll get to it. All the lines about like, it's not a separation. It's just like space. Really? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I can see it. I can see it. I can see you going, look, we work together. We live together. We're so in the minutia of life.
Like we need to like, remember that we like each other and spend time with each other in a different way. I guess I can see that, but still kind of tricky to get there, get your head around. Anyway, then obviously next episode, we're in the reunion part one. I thought they did a really good job of kicking off the reunion. And also, you know, I was talking about timelines earlier.
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