Change Agents with Andy Stumpf
Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, Government Secrets, and the Future of Global Security
02 Apr 2025
On today’s episode, Andy sits down with Annie Jacobsen, a Pulitzer Prize finalist and bestselling author known for her investigative work on government secrecy, military history, and national security. They dive into the stark realities of nuclear war, the differences between atomic and thermonuclear weapons, and the consequences of nuclear escalation. Jacobsen shares her research methods, insights on government transparency, and what she’s learned from those responsible for nuclear stewardship. They also explore Area 51, military technology, and the enduring fascination with UAPs. To read more from Annie, check out her newest novel Nuclear War Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Watch Change Agents: Black Project starting April 8th on Youtube @thisisironclad Sponsors: Sponsors: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ MTNTOUGH Go to https://mtntough.com and enter code CHANGEAGENTS to receive 40% OFF - a savings of about $100 off your MTNTOUGH+ annual subscription. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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