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Chat 10 Looks 3

Ep 297 - First Time Caller, Long Time Listener

23 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent book surprised Sales and why?

0.031 - 27.128 Lee Sales

Chatters if you are a regular listener first of all thank you also sorry um if you want to help us keep this thing rolling along there's a couple of things you can do tell your friends rate and review us or you can even sponsor us by our website uh by tipping a little bit in the can every month or so not necessary at all but super helpful to us so if you feel inclined Go for it.

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27.368 - 37.541 Annabelle Crabb

Chat Turn Looks 3 is recorded on the land of the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation and we pay our respects to them along with our respects to the traditional owners of the land from wherever you are listening.

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37.801 - 40.585 Lee Sales

Sales, sales, sales. I've had the best experience.

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40.985 - 41.205 Annabelle Crabb

Yeah?

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41.746 - 54.422 Lee Sales

Doing what? Well, there's a chatter in the group called Kerry Jewel, based in Melbourne. She's a doctor and she's just written her first novel. And...

Chapter 2: What is the story behind Kerry Jewel's novel 'A Little Unwell'?

54.723 - 79.728 Lee Sales

Gwen drew my attention to a post that she made. The novel is about a young doctor going through training in emergency departments and so on. It's called A Little Unwell. It's called A Little Unwell. And Kerry posted that in the most bizarre, awful twist of fate imaginable, as the book came out, published by Hachette.

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79.888 - 104.344 Lee Sales

It was shortlisted for that Matt Rochelle beautiful new author award that they have in his memory. And she has been diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer at about the same time as this book's coming out. So she's got this extraordinary thing where she's written this book called A Little Unwell and she is herself incredibly unwell.

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Chapter 3: How does the book 'A Little Unwell' reflect the life of a doctor?

104.865 - 128.128 Lee Sales

Anyway, I know that chatters have been buying the book in great numbers just to help her out and to boost her spirits. And I did too. And I cracked it open thinking, it's going to be awkward if this book is no good. It's like, you know, I'd really like to talk about it and give her a boost. And it's so good. It's just, it's funny. I laughed out loud.

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128.729 - 137.461 Lee Sales

It's kind of, I mean, I loved that book, This Is Going to Hurt by Adam Kay. And it sort of hits all the same notes.

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Chapter 4: What makes 'Hawaii' by James Michener engaging despite its length?

137.501 - 160.377 Lee Sales

There is, you know, there's tragedy and misadventure. There's kind of personal drama with this young doctor and her boyfriend and everything. You get a real glimpse of the level of overwork and stress that being a training doctor in Australia involves. Anyway, congratulations, Kerry. I'm not being nice because you have cancer. It is a really, really good book. I absolutely smashed through it.

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161.098 - 169.051 Lee Sales

It really sustained interest and was funny and sad. Made me feel all the things. You've done a really great thing.

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Chapter 5: What are the unexpected themes in 'Hawaii' related to historical events?

169.231 - 170.173 Lee Sales

It's a terrific book.

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170.353 - 182.171 Annabelle Crabb

If she hadn't, that's the truth, because if she hadn't liked it, she just wouldn't have mentioned it and she wouldn't care that you've got cancer. She just would have been, you know, never mentioned it again. So don't think you're getting an easy ride because you've got cancer.

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182.211 - 204.002 Annabelle Crabb

She would have just completely refused to endorse it had she thought it was terrible because that's the kind of person she is. I loved it. I've got a surprise for you that I've just read two things that are absolutely off what I would normally pick. So I started them at the same time and then I abandoned one. So the one I abandoned is a book called Throne of Glass by Sarah J Maas.

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204.022 - 205.183 Lee Sales

Throne of Glass?

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Chapter 6: How do the hosts feel about their recent reading experiences?

205.284 - 206.886 Annabelle Crabb

And it's a fantasy.

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206.986 - 230.377 Annabelle Crabb

Are you all right? I know. I never read that style of book. It's a bit Hunger Games-ish. It starts with a young woman who's been taken prisoner and is being kept in this kind of, salt mine and is a slave to this regime that's kind of invaded her land and taken over her people, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, they're kind of making her an offer to come and work for them.

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230.437 - 240.093 Annabelle Crabb

And it was kind of, it was holding my interest reasonably well, but it fell by the wayside because the other book I picked up, which is also off my tea, really hooked me in.

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Chapter 7: What crafting projects do the hosts discuss and what are their thoughts on them?

240.754 - 250.54 Annabelle Crabb

It is the 1959 novel Hawaii by James Michener. Oh, God, you're just like... I know. It's wild, right? What's going on here?

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250.821 - 269.3 Lee Sales

So Hawaii... Just before you... I mean, I'm going to let you talk, Taylor, but what just... This is a very hectic succession of books, like... Okay, so the Hawaii thing surprised me less. But like, why did you pick up a book called Thrones of Glass?

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269.32 - 284.507 Annabelle Crabb

Because I saw somebody on Instagram who I'd never even heard of some, you know, movie star or something, somebody say it's part of a series of books. And she was like, these books changed my life. They were absolutely... Anyway, I just kind of in a weak moment thought, oh, well, if that was that good, maybe I should have a quick look.

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Chapter 8: What personal rejuvenation activities do the hosts engage in?

284.547 - 307.214 Annabelle Crabb

And so I had a quick look. But I felt like if I wasn't reading something else, I probably would have kept reading. But Hawaii, okay, so Hawaii, I generally do not like historical fiction. I do not like big, fat books, and it is gigantic. And I also hate a book that starts with a lengthy geographic kind of scene. I like to get into people. I hate that, yeah.

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307.234 - 321.665 Annabelle Crabb

The first chapter of Hawaii, and it goes for pages and pages and pages, is about basically the birth of Hawaii as a landmass. It is, you know, how the sort of volcanic things under the water are bubbling up and they're making an island and lava's building up.

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321.785 - 346.212 Annabelle Crabb

And I was just reading it aghast going, how has this guy hooked my attention so comprehensively talking about land bubbling up out of the ocean? And I've now read this for about 40 pages and I'm riveted to every word. And then it goes into this, it's a novel, but the hallmark of his work, as I've Googled, is that he does deep historical research to support the kind of fictional characters.

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346.652 - 366.61 Annabelle Crabb

So then it's some guys who are sort of tribesmen on Bora Bora who get a canoe and they decide they're going to sort of flee off to try to find a land and they end up in Hawaii. And then that takes a long time. And then it's missionaries in the US who are then going to Hawaii to attempt to civilise the native

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366.59 - 396.98 Annabelle Crabb

And then now I'm kind of in a different bit, which I'm not sure even how this is going to tie to Hawaii. We've now moved to ancient China and there's a Chinese group of people. I know. And I cannot stop reading it. It is so good. It's the most hooky book I've read in a really long time. A hooky, hooky book about geology. I could not be more... surprised at how riveting I'm finding it.

397.02 - 416.487 Annabelle Crabb

And it came about because it was recommended to me on the Chat 10 group by people. I was asking about books set in Hawaii and that was how I read that. Yeah. The House with No Keys or whatever it was called. Yes. With the Charlie Chan murder mystery set in Honolulu. And then I thought, oh, yeah, I like that. Like Honolulu is a good setting. It's kind of evocative.

416.628 - 429.823 Annabelle Crabb

And then several people had said Hawaii by James Michener, which I knew was a very famous book. And so I just said, no, I'll have a little look at this. And then now I'm addicted and I've been reading it for two weeks every night nonstop and I'm not even halfway through yet.

430.107 - 450.94 Lee Sales

You are hilarious. Okay, two things. One, are you about to get into a deep geology vertical on me and start using words like escarpment? I need some warning if you think that you're at risk of slipping into one of those. Remember when you got obsessed with what is a moor and how is it different from a heath or whatever?

451.461 - 466.381 Annabelle Crabb

That lasted a while. I don't think so, but he has got a whole, I'm hoping I'm not going to get sucked into all of these books because they're all big and fat and there's like James Michener, Alaska, James Michener, Texas. Like, yeah, we could be entering a really ugly period for you if that happens.

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