CLOC Talk
Episodes
CLOC Spain Spotlight: Growing a Movement Through Leadership & Connection
04 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This episode features an energizing conversation with Maria Pedroza and Gabrielle Silva, who share their journey building the CLOC Spain community and...
“Moving Upstream: Redefining Legal Operations with Curtis Brewer of Litify”
13 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Clock Talk, hosts Janessa Nelson and Nataly Kian sit down with Curtis Brewer, CEO of Litify, to explore how legal departments can t...
Building Community in the Workplace
06 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Clock Talk, hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Tanya Voda sit down with leadership and DEIB expert Reggie Butler for a thought-provoking ...
The Mind of the GC: Navigating Metrics, Trust & AI
30 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Irene Liu, former General Counsel turned Hypergrowth GC coach, joins the conversation to share her career journey from the DOJ and FT...
Live from the CGI Stage: The Powerhouse Perspectives Panel Discussion
16 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this special episode of CLOC Talk, we take you to the 2025 CGI mainstage with the recording of our Powerhouse Perspectives panel discussion. In thi...
Reimagining Legal: AI, Innovation, & the New Playbook
25 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Legal services are evolving fast, and AI is playing a major role in reshaping how teams work.In this episode, Mark Ross, Kami Paulsen, and Rich Levine...
Ingenuity Over Spend: Transforming Legal Ops from the Inside Out
11 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Big changes don’t always require big budgets. In this episode, An Trotter, Senior Director of Operations at Hearst, joins hosts Jeremiah Kincannon a...
Beyond Boundaries: Navigating Legal Ops through Global Lenses
28 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Legal operations don’t look the same everywhere, and in this episode, Flavia Furlan shares her firsthand experience navigating the field in Brazil. ...
Skeptic Turned Leader: Navigating a Decade of Legal Ops
14 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steve Harmon went from doubter to champion in the legal ops world, and in this episode, he joins Jenn McCarron to reflect on a decade of transformatio...
Bold Moves: Taking Risks to Shift Legal Ops in the Age of AI
31 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
We all know egal operations is evolving fast, and AI is changing the game. In this episode, Greg Bennett joins hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Janessa Ne...
Underdog Advantage: Strategic Power Moves from Legal Ops
17 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Legal departments are more than just support functions—they’re strategic powerhouses. In this episode, Eric Greenberg, General Counsel of Cox Medi...
Invisible Technology: The Future of Seamless Collaboration
03 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
AI is reshaping legal operations, but what happens when technology breaks down barriers beyond just efficiency? In this episode, Andre Barrow from Dee...
Presentations Unpacked: Balancing Content, Design, and Delivery
19 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Great presentations don’t just happen, they’re crafted. In this episode, Jenn McCarron sits down with 2025 CGI keynote, Nancy Rademaker and her co...
100 Episodes In: CLOC’s Transformative Legal Ops Journey
05 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From a pandemic-born idea to a thriving conversation hub, CLOC Talk Live has hit 100 episodes! In this special milestone edition, Jenn McCarron is joi...
2025 CGI Morning Meditation #3 - Body Scan
03 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie.Thank you to our wellness sponsor, Spotdraft.
2025 CGI Morning Meditation #2 - Counting the Breath
03 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie.Thank you to our wellness sponsor, Spotdraft.
2025 CGI Morning Meditation #1 - Relax and Release
02 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie.Thank you to our wellness sponsor, Spotdraft.
Shaping Legal Ops: Predictions for 2030
20 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this special episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Rachel St. Peter, Global Head of Legal Operations & Funct...
The Cognitive Edge: Legal Ops & Beyond
06 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Jenn sits down with closing keynote speaker, Helena Boschi, Psycholog...
Legal Ops Remix: Hiring, AI, and Remote Team Success
20 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Jenn sits down with Sam Ross, Chief Legal Officer at Remote. &nb...
AI, Empathy, and Legal Design
06 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Guest Host, Lewis Bretts, Partner at PwC chats with Alisha Andert, co...
Augmented Intelligence: Leadership in the Digital Age
23 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn sits down with Nancy Rademaker, Co-Founder of Drawify & Speakers Club, and our brilliant opening keynote at our...
The Legal Operations Blueprint: Aligning Strategy with Company Goals
09 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In the episode of CLOC Talk, guest host Jeremiah Kincannon chats with Justin Schweisberger, Chief Revenue Officer at Pramata and Kari Walden, Assistan...
Legal Project Management Unpacked: Insights from the Experts
12 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, guest host Jeremiah Kincannon, advisor on CLOC’s Voice and Brand Council chats with CJ Nicastro, Program Manager, Glob...
AI, Rapping, and Legal Pricing: The Future of Law
05 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This special episode of CLOC Talk comes straight from the main stage of our APAC Summit 2024 in Sydney. It features a closing panel discussion on how ...
Automating Agreements: Data-Driven Contracts with Bernadette Bulacan
21 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from CGI 2024 in Las Vegas, Jenn chats with Bernadette Bulacan from Icertis, our awesome Diamond-Level spo...
CLOC Talk LIVE: Insights from APAC Summit 2024!
14 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This episode of CLOC Talk comes straight from the main stage of our APAC Summit 2024 in Sydney. Jenn had a fantastic panel discussion with Caryn Sandl...
Agile Law Down Under: Telstra's Legal Transformation with Craig Emery
31 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded at the 2024 APAC Summit in Sydney, Australia, Jenn sits down with Craig Emery, the head of the legal chapter an...
Meet the Europe Region Leaders!
17 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live at CGI 2024, Jenn sits down with Sheila Dusseau and Sean Houston, Europe region leaders, to discuss their ...
The Importance of Soft Skills in Successful Organizational Change
03 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Meet Holly Ransom, the dynamic CEO of Emergent Global, a sought-after keynote speaker, and a master interviewer who’s all about shaking up the statu...
Strategies for Embracing Change within Legal Operations
19 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In today’s episode of CLOC Talk, recorded in person at CGI 2024 in Las Vegas, Jenn sits down for an in-depth conversation with Travis Zimbelman...
Meet the LATAM Leaders!
05 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from CGI 2024 in Las Vegas, Jenn sits down with Pepe Toriello, from CLOC’s LATAM regional group wh...
CLOC Talk Live: Well-being at Work
22 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from CGI 2024 in Las Vegas, guest host Adam Becker, Director of Legal Operations at Cockroach Labs, chats ...
Knowledge Management
08 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In today’s episode, Jenn is joined by Laura Dieudonne, fellow CLOC Board Member, and Legal Operations and Administration Director at Delta Airlines....
Practice, Operations, Makes Perfect
30 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today we’re discussing Practice Operations in the latest episode of our CLOC CORE series. Jenn sits down with Kelli Brooks, a Senior Solutions Archi...
Meet the team APAC Edition
25 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today Jenn welcomes Katrina Gowans, Director of Legal Operations & Senior Legal Counsel at IFM Investors, and Anna Golovsky, Executive Manager of ...
InfoGov Adventures: Tales of Triumph and Teamwork
11 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn sits down with the fabulous Carl Morrison, Chief of Staff at ModCounsel, and legal operations extraordinaire to dis...
Change Enthusiasm
27 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In today’s episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn sits down with the incredible Cassandra Worthy. Cassandra was our keynote at CGI 2024. Her message centered ar...
BONUS: Spotlight on Success: Honoring LIO Award Winners
25 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this bonus episode of CLOC Talk, Guest host and 2023 LIO winner Jen Mattson Associate Vice President of Legal Operations at Nationwide, takes the s...
Organization, Optimization, and Health
13 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today, Host and CLOC President Jenn McCarron is joined by one of her favorite humans in legal ops Frances Pomposo. Frances has been a legal ops vision...
CLOC Talk LIVE: Legal Ops 3.0 Future Ready!
30 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome, to this special episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the main stage at CGI 2024 in Las Vegas. Host Jenn McCarron had an incredible panel...
CLOC Talk Goes to Harvard
16 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today on CLOC Talk, Jenn is joined by Harvard Law School faculty member, Professor David Wilkins.Professor Wilkins identifies the current period as pi...
CGI Morning Meditation #4 - Tonglen Compassion
09 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie.
CGI Morning Meditation #3 - Breath Watch
08 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie.
CGI Morning Meditation #2 - Labeling
07 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie.
Curiosity Matters Most
04 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this special bonus episode of CLOC Talk, guest host, Adam Becker, CLOC Board member and Director of Legal Operations at Cockroach Labs, does a deep...
Braindate Punk'd Editon
02 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today we're diving into a special edition fueled by the vibrant energy of 2023's CLOC Global Institute in Las Vegas. During one of Jenn's Braindate s...
CGI Morning Meditation # 1 - Counting Breath
02 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie.
LIVE from SXSW 2024 - Vol. Two
18 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today in part two of our special episode of CLOC Talk, we are wading through the dynamic world of legal tech. Where failure meets innovation head-on. ...
LIVE from SXSW 2024 - Vol. One
04 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today on another special episode of CLOC Talk, we are wading through the dynamic world of legal tech. Where failure meets innovation head-on. This wee...
Breaking the Glass Ceiling to the Stars
21 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to this special episode of CLOC Talk, where host Jenn McCarron went to space via an interview with Astronaut Colonel Eileen Collins. Colonel C...
Getting Pumped for 2024 with the CLOC Executive Leadership Team
07 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode, President of CLOC, Jenn McCarron sits down with the new 2024 CLOC executive leadership team, Farah Pepper, CLOC Vice President and Ch...
The Chocolate and Peanut Butter of Digital Transformation
22 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to the first CLOC Talk episode with our new roster of guest hosts. This week's guest host is CLOC Board member Adam Becker, Director of ...
Real Talk with Mary O'Carroll
08 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode, Jenn sits down with her friend and industry pioneer, Mary O'Carroll, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad and quite possibly, the Lega...
You Don't Need a Dashboard
25 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Scratch that, you probably need a dashboard, but trust us you don't need all those widgets. On this episode, host Jenn McCarron sits down with Jason B...
Help, I Tripped and Fell Into Legal Ops
11 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WE ARE BACK. Happy New Year. On today's episode, host, and new CLOC President, Jenn McCarron is joined by friend and legal ops colleague Lewis Bretts...
"Faster Deal Times"
21 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Well, we did it! We made it to the finish line for 2023. What a year!! On today's episode, Jenn sits down with CLOC Talk Producer Drea Bernardi. They ...
New Job? New Strategy
14 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Jenn is joined by Yesenia "Jessie" Santiago Egner, Legal Operations Strategic Advisor at Otsuka Pharmaceutical Companies(US). This is...
People are the Process
06 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode, we're back at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London, where Jenn is joined by Wendy Butler Curtis, Chief Innovation Officer at Orrick, Her...
Everything in it's Right Place
30 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today we're dropping back into the podcast lounge at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London where Jenn is joined by Tom Rice, Head of Legal Ops and Custome...
Giving Thanks
23 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
A quick note from host Jenn McCarron.
CLM; IYKYK
16 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On today's episode, we are back at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London, where host Jenn McCarron is joined by guest Amy McConnell, Head of Legal Operati...
Design Unicorn
09 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week on CLOC Talk, CEO and Co-Founder of WOW Legal Experience Karol Valencia joins host Jenn McCarron for a colorful conversation on the most elu...
Podcast vs. Podcast
02 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Alex Kelly is not just the host of the In-House Outliers Podcast, he is also COO and Co-Founder at Brightflag and one of our favorite guests at CLOC T...
Back to Basics
26 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this week's episode, Jenn is joined by the Chief Evangelist at Icertis Bernadette Bulacan. The two legal tech innovators, get skeptical together ab...
The History of Legal Ops
19 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode, we kick off our series of interviews from the podcast lounge at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London. Caroline Hill, editor-in-chief at ...
LIVE from the EMEA Summit 2023
12 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, we're going to the main stage of our 2023 CLOC EMEA Summit in London. Jenn is joined by Bernadette Bulacan Starin, Chief Evangelist a...
The Word is Vibe
05 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this special episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn steps out of the office and into the music studio with Michael Morrison, Senior Client Manager at Priori. I...
Knowledge Management for Dummies
28 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In today's episode, Jenn sits down with frequent CLOC Talk cohost, Tommie Ferreira, Head of Legal Ops at Cedar, and guest Ihor Monostraisky, Head of L...
Mentorship Moment with Steve Harmon
14 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this special episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn is joined by her mentor Steve Harmon, Chief Operating Officer and general counsel at Elevate. Steve was a f...
The 2023 EMEA Summit Pre-Game
07 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week Jenn is joined by Aine Lyons, fellow CLOC board member, and Senior Vice President and Deputy General Counsel at VMware to chat about the CLO...
The Change Management Clock is Ticking
31 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn is joined by Julie Richer, Director of Legal Operations at Bath and Body Works, and Kim Wolfe, Head of Legal B...
Change Your Story, Change Your Mind with IN-Q
24 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Jenn sits down with IN-Q, an Emmy-nominated poet, multi-platinum songwriter, and the best-selling author of Inquire Within, after his...
About Me: Why You Need a Personal Brand
17 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week, attorney turned social media strategist and personal branding expert, Sameena Safdar, joins Jenn to chat about all the reasons why you, yes...
Intrapreneurship in Legal Ops
10 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week, Jenn chats with Justin Felder, Senior Manager of Legal Operations at Indeed, about how to be a rockstar intrapreneur at your company. They ...
BONUS: Introducing the new CLOC DEIB Council
09 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode, Jenn sits down with fellow CLOC Board member and Head of Legal Operations at Delta Airlines, Laura Dieudonne, HRM AAS, to announce CL...
That Tech Stack Life
03 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Do you have a tech stack? Do you want one?In this episode, host Jenn McCarron and co-host Tommie Ferreira get technical with the Sr. Director of Legal...
J-to-the-OG with the Legal Ops Podcast
27 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Jenn sits down with the OG's of the legal ops industry podcast space, Alex Rosenrauch and Elliot Leibu to discuss the state of the sta...
Real Talk with Mary O'Carroll Vegas Edition
20 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Mary O’Carroll, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad, and CLOC Talk host Jenn McCarron catch up with a real talk session in Vegas at CGI 2023. With t...
Transforming with Baratunde Thurston
13 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week we join host Jenn McCarron as she debriefs with keynote speaker, podcast host, and activist Baratunde Thurston on the topic of tra...
Smarter, Not Harder: Navigating Wellness in Legal Ops
06 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this week's episode host Jenn McCarron, Director of Legal Operations and Technology at Netflix, sits down with Brian Meegan, Director of Sales and ...
The Dark Night of the Soul LIVE from CGI 2023
29 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to season two of CLOC Talk! Today's episode comes at you LIVE from the CLOC Global Institute (CGI) main stage.Join host Jenn McCarron, Directo...
Hold That Thought! BRB
26 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Legal Ops HEROS. How about that CLOC Global Institute? Have you recovered yet? Our host Jenn McCarron drops in for a quick update on the next season o...
Morning Meditation #3 -Wisdom and Discernment, Powered by Warrior One
18 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Join us for a peaceful start to your day with Morning Meditations, hosted by Warrior One and Powered by the CLOC Talk Podcast.&nbs...
Morning Meditation #2 - Cultivation of Happiness and Peace, Powered by Warrior One
17 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Join us for a peaceful start to your day with Morning Meditations, hosted by Warrior One and Powered by the CLOC Talk Podcast.&nbs...
Morning Meditation #1 - Focus and Wellbeing, Powered by Warrior One
13 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Join us for a peaceful start to your day with Morning Meditations, hosted by Warrior One and Powered by the CLOC Talk Podcast.&nbs...
Introducing the CLOC Talk Brand Remix v2
11 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Tech, Transformation and The Meaning of Life. That is what CLOC Talk is all about. To celebrate CGI next week, we are updating our look. In this quick...
Please Welcome Our AI overlords
11 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jenn catches up with MIT-educated product developer and friend Dave Bredesen about the future of AI. Dave has some new thoughts about large language ...
The Magic of Collaboration
04 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this flashback to CGI 2022 compilation episode, Jenn, Tom, and Carl interview attendees in the hallway to share their learnings and experiences at ...
The Answer is Yes
27 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode, we're sliding into host Jenn McCarron's LinkedIn DM's and reading the juicy questions that you all are asking. Listen with us as we h...
The Journey is the Destination
20 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Host Jenn McCarron discusses the evolving Legal Ops career path with Co-host Tommie Ferreira, Head of Legal Operations at Cedar. The two discuss the u...
Mentorship Moment
13 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Marie Widmer, Senior Legal Operations Manager, Technology at Hubspot, slides into host Jenn McCarron's LinkedIn DM's for a legal ops pep-talk that lea...
Legal Ops Learning Lab with Brian Tang
06 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
As we ramp up to CGI 2023 we join Jenn McCarron as she interviews Brian Tang, from the LITE Lab at the University of Hong Kong, in the moments after C...
The Power of Vulnerability
30 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Legal ops pioneer and leader Frances Pomposo joined host Jenn McCarron in the podcast lounge after her powerful CGI 2022 opening session. This dynamic...
Salvation
23 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Basha Rubin, CEO & Co-Founder at Priori Legal, and Jacqueline Schafer, CEO & Co-Founder of Clearbrief, join host Jenn McCarron and ca-ho...
The Rise of the Machines
16 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Thomson Reuters Senior Council, Raees Nakhuda, and Product Executive, Nick Vandivere join host Jenn McCarron and co-host Tommie Ferreira to discuss th...
LIVE from New York! It's Legal Ops
09 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week we go on tour, with host Jennifer McCarron, Head of Legal Operations and Tech at Netflix, and CLOC Talk co-host Tommie Ferreira, Head of Leg...
How to Creative
02 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jo Vong, of Plaid, and Sheena Ferrari, of Zendesk, join Jenn in her studio to continue the conversation about how to feed your creative impulses while...
Real Talk with Mary O'Carroll
23 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Mary O’Carroll, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad, and host Jenn McCarron catch up with a real talk session after their latest Ironclad webinar. T...
Across the Legal Ops Galaxy
15 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jason Barnwell, General Manager for Digital Transformation of Corporate, External, and Legal Affairs at Microsoft, and Jae Um, Founder & Executive...