Closing Bell
Episodes
Closing Bell 1/21/26
21 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Netflix Earnings; Fed Chair Race Shakeup 1/20/26
20 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Eamon Javers reports on President Trump’s moves and their market implications. Geopolitical deep dive with Evercore ISI vice chairman Krishna Guha, ...
Closing Bell: 1/12/26
20 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: More Affordability Pressures & OpenAI Adds Ads 1/16/26
16 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Carson Group’s Ryan Detrick joins to discuss why signs continue to point toward a market rally—and whether Washington policy risks could disrupt t...
Closing Bell 1/16/26
16 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: Taiwan Semi Powers Tech Higher; Wells Fargo’s Ohsung Kwon on Top Ideas; Pimco’s Emerging Markets Plays 1/15/26
15 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Chip stocks help power the market higher, with Piper Sandler’s Harsh Kumar weighing in on leadership in semiconductors. Is the tech trade back? Well...
Closing Bell 1/15/26
15 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Washington Dominates Markets Again 1/14/26
14 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Charles Bobrinskoy of Ariel Investments explains why inflation remains a key concern for investors and why value is outperforming so far this year. Co...
Manifest Space: Sidus Space CEO & Founder Carol Craig on Golden Dome, Disruption in Space and a Company Stepping Into the Spotlight 1/14/26
14 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Morgan Brennan sits down with Sidus Space founder and CEO Carol Craig to discuss the company’s rapid rise--a more than 400% stock surge since the fa...
Closing Bell 1/14/26
14 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: 1/13/26
13 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 1/13/26
13 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 1/12/26
12 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Trump Ramps Up Powell Pressure; Apple’s AI Moment 1/12/26
12 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
David Zervos of Jefferies digs into the news that the DOJ has opened a probe into Fed Chair Powell and the market reaction. Omar Aguilar, CEO and CIO ...
Jobs, the Fed, and Market Crosscurrents: Oil, AI Spending, and Precious Metals 1/9/26
09 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Sam Stovall of CFRA weighs in on the broader market backdrop, while former Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher unpacks what the data means for the eco...
Closing Bell: 1/9/26
09 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: 1/8/26
08 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: The Rally, the Fed and Your Money 1/8/26
08 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The President says he has settled on a new fed chair in a new interview with the New York Times. We discuss with the Wall Street Journal’s Nick Timi...
Closing Bell Overtime: Policy Shockwaves Hit Oil, Defense, Housing as Record Run Takes Breather 1/7/26
07 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Markets move as Washington takes center stage, with Eamon Javers reporting on White House actions rippling through oil, defense, and housing, includin...
Closing Bell 1/7/25
07 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Record Closes For Dow, S&P 500; Deere CFO on Autonomous Push 1/6/25
06 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Our Pippa Stevens breaks down the record action across metals including gold, silver, copper, and nickel. Gargi Pal Chaudhuri, BlackRock’s head of i...
Closing Bell: The Record-Setting Rally 1/6/25
06 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Where does this rally go from here? Strategas’ Chris Verrone, BNY’s Alicia Levine and Requisite Capital’s Bryn Talkington discuss. Plus, Rick He...
Markets rally after weekend actions in Venezuela, L3Harris CFO on global defense 1/5/25
05 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Global risk with Barry Knapp of Ironsides Macroeconomics and Drew Pettit of Citi Research who break down market reaction to developments in Venezuela,...
Closing Bell: Another Year of Strength Ahead? 1/5/26
05 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Can stocks post a fourth-consecutive strong year? We discuss with Solus’ Dan Greenhaus, NewEdge’s Cameron Dawson and iCapital’s Sonali Basak. Pl...
Closing Bell Overtime: 1/2/26
02 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 1/2/26
02 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: 12/31/25
31 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 12/31/25
31 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: 12/30/25
30 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 12/30/25
30 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: 12/29/25
29 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 12/29/25
29 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman on New Space Race; Rocket Lab CFO on Stock Surge 12/26/25
26 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Farr of Farr Miller & Washington talks the broader investing backdrop. Joe Feldman of Telsey Advisory Group digs into the state of retail and ...
Closing Bell 12/26/25
26 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Manifest Space: HawkEye 360 CEO John Serafini on tracking dark oil tankers across the globe, his latest acquisition and a possible IPO 12/26/25
26 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Morgan Brennan sits down with John Serafini, HawkEye 360 CEO, on the latest episode of Manifest Space. They discuss the company’s role in tracking s...
Closing Bell Overtime: Banks at record highs; Holiday stocks for your stocking 12/24/25
24 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It’s a holiday-shortened trading day but the Dow and S&P 500 still closed at record highs. Patrick Fruzzetti of Rose Advisors weighs in on the broad...
Closing Bell Overtime: Stephen Tusa’s Industrials outlook; Novo’s Big Day 12/23/25
23 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
David Trainer of New Constructs on what fundamentals are really saying about today’s market. Stephen Tusa of JPMorgan breaks down the state of indus...
Closing Bell 12/23/25
23 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: IMAX CEO on Avatar; Gold & Silver Set Fresh Records 12/22/25
22 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Carol Schleif of BMO Private Wealth and Bob Doll of Crossmark Global Investments on positioning, risk appetite, and what’s driving sentiment. Bart M...
Closing Bell: What 2026 Will Hold for Your Money 12/22/25
22 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What could be in store for your money in the new year? We discuss with Fundstrat’s Tom Lee, Hightower’s Stephanie Link and CIBC Capital Markets’...
Closing Bell Overtime: “Avocado & Garlic” Market Catalysts; Goldman’s Biotech Playbook for 2026 12/19/25
19 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Scott Wren of Wells Fargo Investment Institute on global strategy and positioning, plus Steve Liesman wraps his key interview with Fed Governor Christ...
Closing Bell 12/19/25
19 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell 12/18/25
18 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: 12/17/25
17 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell 12/17/25
17 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: Databricks CEO on New Fundraise; What’s going on in energy markets? 12/16/25
16 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Bob Elliott of Unlimited joins the show to break down the market backdrop as investors weigh growth, risk, and positioning, before Leslie Picker repor...
Closing Bell 12/16/25
16 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Ford CEO on EV Shift; David Sacks on AI; ServiceNow CEO on What’s Next 12/15/25
15 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Evercore’s Julian Emanuel breaks down today’s market action and what’s in store for investors in 2026. White House AI and Crypto Czar David Sack...
Closing Bell 12/15/25
15 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: Worries hit the AI trade, SpaceX IPO Buzz, and the 2026 Consumer & Fintech Outlook 12/12/25
12 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Oracle and Broadcom worries hit tech stocks. Jose Rasco, Chief Investment Officer at HSBC Global Private Banking and Wealth Management, breaks down th...
Closing Bell 12/12/25
12 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Record closes for Dow, S&P 500; Broadcom earnings and the outlook for AI in 2026 12/11/25
11 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Heath Terry, Citi’s Global Head of Technology and Communications Research, breaks down the latest OpenAI announcement and what it means for the AI l...
Manifest Space: Planet Labs CEO Will Marshall on using AI for national security around the globe and the promise of data centers in space 12/11/25
11 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Morgan Brennan sits down with Will Marshall, Planet Labs CEO, on the latest episode of Manifest Space. They discuss how the company is using AI in its...
Closing Bell: How Far Can Stocks Go? 12/11/25
11 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What could be next for this record setting rally? Fundstrat’s Tom Lee reveals his 2026 outlook. Plus, we discuss what could be in store for the AI t...
Closing Bell Overtime: Fed Cuts Rates & Oracle Reports; Plus Bank of America CEO 12/10/25
10 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
David Zervos of Jefferies shares his take on what the Fed’s move means for markets and the economy. Earnings from Oracle, Adobe and Synopsys, with R...
Closing Bell: Bond King Gundlach Reacts to Fed Decision 12/10/25
10 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Fed Chair Powell followed the committee’s decision to cut interest rates by 25 basis points, while signaling a higher bar for the next cut. DoubleLi...
Closing Bell Overtime: Fed Decision, Oracle Earnings Loom 12/9/25
09 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steve Sosnick, Chief Strategist at Interactive Brokers, and Brij Khurana, Fixed Income Portfolio Manager at Wellington Management, break down cross-as...
Closing Bell: Can Stocks Make New Highs? 12/9/25
09 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Trivariate’s Adam Parker, Aureus Asset Management’s Kari Firestone and JP Morgan’s Stephanie Aliaga tell us where they think stocks will go from...
Closing Bell Overtime: Apple AI, Media M&A Tensions and What China Sees Next 12/8/25
08 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Kevin Mahn, President and Chief Investment Officer at Hennion & Walsh, and Victoria Greene, Founder and Chief Investment Officer at G Squared Private ...
Closing Bell: The AI Arms Race 12/8/25
08 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The commerce department is set to allow exports of Nvidia H200 chips to China. We break down that developing story with our Kristina Partsinevelos and...
Closing Bell Overtime: 12/5/25
05 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: Stocks Staging an End-Of-Year Run? 12/5/25
05 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Can stocks stage an end of year run? We discuss with The Wharton School’s Jeremy Siegel, Requisite Capital’s Bryn Talkington and Neuberger Berman’...
Closing Bell Overtime: Markets, Meta Cuts, and the Retail Read 12/4/25
04 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Investors weigh bonds, jobless claims, and rising economic concerns with Jim Paulsen of Paulsen Perspectives and Charles Bobrinskoy, Vice Chairman at ...
Closing Bell: The AI Battleground 12/4/25
04 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
We discuss the big battle of the AI devices and the big tech players in that fight with our own Steve Kovach and Big Technology’s Alex Kantrotwitz. ...
Manifest Space: Istari CEO Will Roper on making a moon dust battery for Blue Origin 12/3/25
03 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Morgan Brennan sits down with Will Roper, Istari CEO, on the latest episode of Manifest Space. They discuss the startup’s big news announced today: ...
Closing Bell Overtime: Earnings Bonanza; CEOs of C3.AI, UiPath & Fortune Brands 12/3/25
03 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
A big day of tech earnings, including results from Salesforce, Snowflake, C3.AI and UiPath. BD8 Capital’s Barbara Doran and Charles Schwab’s Kevin...
Closing Bell 12/3/25
03 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: Michael Dell on ‘Invest in America’; Pure Storage CEO on AI Demand 12/2/25
02 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Dell joins from the White House first on CNBC after pledging over $6B to partially fund investment accounts for 25 million American children. ...
Closing Bell 12/2/25
02 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: Three-Year Anniversary of AI Bull Market: What’s Next? Plus, New MongoDB CEO 12/1/25
01 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Stocks, crypto fall to start December as the risk-off trade continues. HSBC’s Max Kettner breaks down the market action. T. Rowe Price’s Tony Wang...
Closing Bell 12/1/25
01 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: 11/26/25
28 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime 11/26/25
26 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 11/26/25
26 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: 11/25/25
25 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: Don’t Fight the Fed 11/25/25
25 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Reports that Kevin Hassett is the front-runner to be the next Fed chair sent stocks higher today. We discuss that big move with our market panel – T...
Closing Bell Overtime: 11/24/25
24 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 11/24/25
24 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: 11/21/25
21 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 11/21/25
21 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: Stocks End Lower After Volatile Day Following Nvidia Earnings11/20/25
20 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
We bring you all the action from a wild day in the markets. After Nvidia’s strong earnings, shares were up 5% in early trading. But by midday, Nvidi...
Closing Bell Overtime: Nvidia Delivers 11/18/25
19 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Nvidia shares gained in Overtime after the company delivered strong results, topping estimates for earnings and revenue while raising its guidance. Nv...
Closing Bell: Make-or-Break Moment for Nvidia 11/19/25
19 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
All eyes are on Nvidia today. What should investors expect from the report, the guidance, and the conference call? We discuss with Kristina Partsineve...
Closing Bell Overtime: Looking Ahead to Nvidia Earnings 11/18/25
18 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The markets closed lower in a volatile session ahead of Wednesday’s Nvidia report, the most closely-watched earnings of the quarter and maybe the ye...
Closing Bell: Trading AI Anxiety 11/18/25
18 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
We debate the state of the markets ahead of Nvidia’s earnings in a little over 24 hours from now with our all-star panel Sofi’s Liz Thomas, Humili...
Closing Bell Overtime: Markets, AI, and Year-End Plays 11/17/25
17 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Kristina Partsinevelos recaps the market while Rick Santelli breaks down bond market moves and Mackenzie Sigalos explains Bitcoin’s “death cross.”...
Closing Bell: 11/17/25
17 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Manifest Space: York Space Systems CEO on Impact of Government Shutdown, Supply Chain Resilience and What’s Next for York 11/17/25
17 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Morgan Brennan sits down with Dirk Wallinger, York Space Systems founder and CEO, on the latest episode of Manifest Space. They discuss the rapid shif...
Closing Bell Overtime: Tech Stabilizes After Morning Drop; Who is New Walmart CEO? 11/14/25
14 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
A volatile week in markets as Mackenzie Sigalos breaks down the big crypto selloff and Steve Liesman explains the Fed’s dilemma. Sam Stovall of CFRA...
Closing Bell: 11/14/25
14 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Stocks Sell Off As More AI, Tech Fears Roil Investors; Cursor CEO on New Valuation 11/13/25
13 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Stocks sold off today, especially in tech. More fears around the valuations in the AI trade hitting some high-momentum names. One bright spot: health ...
Closing Bell: Stocks Sink in Final Hour of Trade 11/13/25
13 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Is this another routine but fleeting gut check or are the bull market underpinnings of tech leadership and a friendly Fed buckling? We discuss with Ch...
Closing Bell Overtime: Commvault CEO on Cyber Protection in AI Age; Top International Picks; Previewing Disney Earnings 11/12/25
12 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Dow notched its first close above 48,000 despite tech falling today. Carson Group’s Ryan Detrick and Wealth Enhancement’s Ayako Yoshioka break...
Closing Bell 11/12/25
12 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell Overtime: November 11, 2025
11 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: AI Under the Microscope 11/11/25
11 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
A flurry of AI headlines have investors talking today. Deirdre Bosa breaks all of those down for us – and we discuss with our panel Trivariate’s A...
Closing Bell Overtime 11/10/25
10 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Closing Bell: 11/10/25
10 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From the open to the close, “Closing Bell” and “Closing Bell: Overtime” have you covered. From what’s driving market moves to how investors ...
Manifest Space: Intuitive Machines CEO on $800 Million Deal and Building a Lunar Communications Network 11/7/25
07 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Morgan Brennan sits down with Steve Altemus, CEO and co-founder of Intuitive Machine, a company known for lunar landings. But the company just bought ...
AI Trade Cooldown; Andreessen Horowtiz’s Katherine Boyle on Private Markets; Lessons from Gig Earnings 11/7/25
07 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Are markets starting to rotate out of tech? Jim Paulsen of Paulsen Perspectives weighs in as investors reassess the rally. On Capitol Hill, Emily Wilk...