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Cloud Realities

CR113: Bridging the digital skills gap in a complex world with Mike Nayler, AWS

23 Oct 2025

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The skills we teach today will decide the world we live in tomorrow but the digital skills gap is something we've been dealing with for decades, but it’s growing faster than ever, it starts with kids and stretches all the way into late IT careers, and now we're finally taking a more connected, lifelong approach to closing it. This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Mike Nayler, Director, National Security, Defense & Public Safety at AWS about the digital skills gap and explore how tech companies can help close it. TLDR:00:45 Introduction of Mike Nayler and the pros and cons of enterprise architects, based on a survey03:30 Rob is confused about AI replacing prompt engineers07:55 Conversation with Mike on the digital skills gap25:15 The real gap is between institutions and the people they aim to serve33:24 Mike heading back to school and writing essays againGuest Mike Nayler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayler/ HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/ ProductionMarcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/ 'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

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