Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shea Shea. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shea Shea. Stopping by for conversation on the drink today, he's a two-time NBA champion as a player for the Los Angeles Lakers. He's a coach that offered the greatest comeback in finals history with his team down 3-1 with two of the last three games on the road.
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Chapter 2: What were Tyronn Lue's early experiences in basketball?
But you do realize when you bring these players in, combined with the players that you already have, expectations goes up exponentially. Yeah. You know what's expected of you guys, and you guys just happen to be the oldest team in the NBA. See, how'd that happen? If you don't have expectations, you don't have a chance to win. Okay. And so you should never shy away from that.
You know, as a coach, you should be running to that. Right. You know, having a chance to compete for a championship. That's all you can ask for. Just having a chance to compete because there's about 20 teams that come in every season, and they don't have a chance to really win. For me, I think we really have a real shot.
Like I said, with the guys we acquired this summer, with the guys we had here last year, with a healthy Kawhi, I think we really do have a chance to be an elite team. It's going to take a lot of work, but we can get there. How important was it for you guys to get into your own building?
Because as long as you stayed in Staples or the Crip or whatever they call it, it's really hard to have an identity because the Lakers have been there so long. They've won so much in that building, especially not so much in the last 10 years, last 15 years, excuse me. But, you know, with Shaq and Kobe, everybody remembers that. And now you got the Lakers and now you got LeBron in that building.
You got Luka. How important was it for you guys, T. Lou, to get your own building? Well, it was important. And I know everyone makes the rivalry, the Clippers, Lakers, whatever. But to me, it's more about the city of L.A. So when I first came here as a rookie, it's all I knew. And they embraced me. And just being here for the people in the city of L.A., it means the most to me.
So if you're a Lakers fan, if the Clippers are not playing the Lakers, you should be a Clippers fan. Right. Like, you know, it's us against the world, you know. And so that's kind of how they view it, though. I know. I know. But I wish they would. You know, and so for me, it was great for us to kind of like you said, Mr. Obama, when he bought the team, he said, I'm going to build us an arena.
And so, you know, it took some time and he did that. Right. You know, and so to have our own home and a place you can leave your shoes in a locker room. Right. To move it out every time, you know, we left to go on the road or a concert came in. Right. You know, it's huge for us to have a place called home, and it's beautiful.
I mean, they've done a great job of just everything they've done with that. You know, nothing was left out. Nothing was spared. He spared no expense. Reports are, and you can correct this, that Kawhi trained until the end of the playoffs. Is that true? He trained like he put his body. He was doing like the playoffs was going on, even though he wasn't playing.
And so when the clip, excuse me, when the Thunder and who they play, the Pacers, when they ended. Yeah. He started to take a break and now he started back up. Yeah. Why do you think it was important for him to do that? I think just train his mind to be able to play and get to the finals. Yeah. Like our season was over.
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Chapter 3: How did Tyronn Lue transition from player to coach?
Super funny. People say he joking, he having a good time. But when the cameras are around, he's so robotic. Yeah, and that's kind of what makes him him. A lot of times, stars, they want to get out in front of the camera. They want to be seen. And he's the total opposite. And so he rather let his game do the talking than speaking. And so you can respect that. And I love that about him.
But he's a funny dude. You re-signed James Harden, the two-year deal. When you guys make the move and you get Harden, what was your expectation? Because you had saw him from afar. You see him score 36 a night. You see him win the MVP. You see a guy go from the sixth man of the year to one of the two or three best players in the NBA.
So when you get a guy like that, what's going through your head like that? Damn, I mean, I don't want to mess up too much of what he's doing, but I also need him to play within the scheme. So what's your thought process when you get a guy like a James Harden? Yeah, it's tough. You just got to kind of figure out. The first thing you do is go to a player like that and say, you be who you are.
And we're going to try to make sure we incorporate into the team dynamics, but be who you are. And if you're doing too much, we'll let you know. But when he first came out there. Damn, T. Lou, you said you do it too much, you let him know? Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, when he first came, he wasn't doing enough. He was taking like seven shots a game. And so PG, Kawhi, and then we had Russ coming in.
And so James is more the facilitator, making the plays. But... when he started to like, you know, score more and be more aggressive, I think we went 35 and six or something, 33 and six. And we had a hell of a stretch, you know, when we, once we got them, but we had worked on some all training camp about a cutting and slashing and moving. And we brought him in. We just totally killed it.
Cause James, like God's space, we can make the right play and make sure guys are in the right spots. And so it made it tough for us, but we adjusted to it. And like you said, when guys are great, you just gotta let them be great. Right. How do you make sure that game seven doesn't happen again?
Because we hear James Harden is great in the regular season and then come playoff time, we don't seem to get that same level of James Harden. Is it mental? Is it something that you can do? Is it something the players around him can do? What can you guys do to make sure he's at his absolute best when you need him to be? Yeah, I mean, I don't see what the difference is between Game 6 and Game 7.
You know, the Game 6 was an elimination game. Right. He had 30, what, 36? Right. You know, so, like, I don't think it's a mental thing. I think teams are prepping for a hell of a guy. Right. You know, and so when you have two or three guys loaded up, not going to let you play to your strengths, not going to let you ISO and get to where you want to get to, it just makes it tough, you know.
That's when other guys got to help out. That's when I got to help out. That's when other guys got to step up. And I just take most of the blame. If he's not performing, if my players are not performing, it's on me. And so for me, if that's going to be a problem, then we just got to win in six games. Don't go to seven.
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Chapter 4: What makes Shaquille O'Neal a unique player in NBA history?
Not a guy his size that can move like that. You look, there are guys, okay, Jokic, Mike can make better shots, can, you know, that, and Joel Embiid. But I'm talking about his size, his ability, nobody will ever be that dominant again. Never. Nope. If you were the coach, let's just say I'm going to make you Phil Jackson, and you're the coach of Shaq and Kobe, how do you keep them together?
How do you make peace? Whatever it takes. No, seriously, you can't lose that. Like, that changes people's lives forever. You know, not just Shaq and Kobe, what Fields already feel, you know, but the organization. Right.
Chapter 5: How did Tyronn Lue handle coaching superstar players like Shaq and Kobe?
All of us role players. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that changed our lives forever. Like, you keep those guys together and you get a chance to win six, seven, eight championships. Like, in L.A.? Right. Like, come on, man. Like. No better thing. And so whatever I had to do, whatever I had to say, I was going to do it. You know, and so, I mean, you had to.
Like, there's no way you can lose Shaq. Like, you know, they had to stay together. And so that was just very disappointing, you know, especially all the success that we had. It was disappointing to see that happen. I think the thing for me is that Shaq replaying in his mind saying he wished he had done things different. Because he knows.
He knows he left, at bare minimum, he left two championships with the Lakers on the court.
Chapter 6: What insights does Tyronn Lue share about Kobe Bryant's practice mentality?
He knows that. Right. He knows it. I think more than that. Yes. At minimum. At minimum. winning MVPs and winning titles. And he's like, and people start talking about what he's, he's up there. He's like, hold on, wait a minute. Y'all, y'all forgot about me. I don't know how. It's never, like I said, it's never going to be a player like Shaq ever again.
No, no, not that size, not that athleticism, not that dominant. No, never. And so, um, Like I said, I'm just sad that it happened, you know, the way it did because they were supposed to be together. Right.
Chapter 7: How did Tyronn Lue navigate relationships with players like Rondo and KG?
You know, in my eyes. What was Kobe like in practice? Because everybody say like, look, I mean, Lou will tell the story that he made him take off his shoes because they were bull jiving in the game. They didn't play hard. What was he like in practice?
Because we heard the last dance, Jordan, you know, how he swung on Steve Kerr, that he was not afraid to approach guys, getting guys' face to make sure everybody was giving their best effort. Not in the game. But practice. What was COVID? What you saw in the game. That's how he told me. Every single day. Every single day. He wanted to be the best player every single day in practice, in the game.
And that's just how he competed, you know. And so every time we got a new player like, you know, Glenn Rice. Yeah. And Glenn Rice was a bad dude. Yeah. You know. Kobe wanted to play one-on-one to show him, like, this is my team. We got J.R. Ryder. Same thing. Like, J.R. Ryder got there. He wanted to play him one-on-one, show him this is my team. You used to be mad over there, but not here.
Yeah, and so that's just who he was. Like, competed every single possession, every sprint, every drill. Like, he wanted to be the best. And that's no bullshit. Like, every single day, he was the same person. What you see in a game, you saw in practice every single day. You end up leaving, and you end up at Washington with 40-year-old Jordan. Obviously, he's not the first three-peat.
He's not the end three-peat. He's taking time off, and he comes back. But could you see why he was Michael Jordan? Oh, no doubt. I mean, you see a guy that's 40 years old, and he averaged 21 points a game on one leg. See, people don't take into consideration, like, he played on one leg, one knee, you know, for two years. And he averaged 20 points a game.
And so I could just see just coming in to the gym, like Kobe, like I said, was a super worker. And you see a guy like Jordan, you come to practice two hours early, think you're coming in about to work out. Jordan's already done. Lathered up, done lifted, sweat on the court, did all his footwork stuff, all his basketball stuff. You're like, damn, I came two hours early. He's already done at 40.
Yeah. So what was he like at 23, 24, 25? You know, and so you knew that's why he was who he was. And so when I first walked in, I was in awe, like to be able to play with somebody you looked up to and idolized your whole life and to be, you know, You don't even seem real, does he? No. See? No. People think I'm lying when I say that the first time I saw him. He like, he levitating.
And I'm looking at this man, he probably think I'm a, he like, man, Sterling Sharpe, little brother, look crazy. Because I'm looking at him like he not, because he not real. T. Lou, he not real. And when people see him, like, you know, he never had a lot of security. No. Like, but when people see him, they stop. Like, because they're, like, in awe.
Like, oh, that's my... And before you can really say something, he's already gone. Like, it wasn't a lot of crowd control. Right. Like, because, like, you see him and you just freeze. Right. Like, all the other celebrities and stars and, like, people are going to run to him and go crazy. Right. Nobody ever really ran to Jordan because we just... You can't believe it's him. You can't believe it.
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