Chapter 1: What inspired Nico Papademetriou to start Qu?
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Chapter 2: How has the restaurant industry changed in recent years?
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Look, cloud is an amazing thing. Cloud only or too heavily tied to the cloud also creates bottlenecks. It creates over-reliance on internet access, right? Things like latency and packet loss and bandwidth all can have significant negative or adverse impacts on systems that are too heavily tied and architected to the cloud.
And so in the restaurant space, especially in the fast casual and quick service arena that we work, if you have things like holding data back because of bandwidth issues or internet loss or things like that, that can spin out of control very quickly. And we saw that. My name is Nico Papadimitriou. I'm the co-founder and executive vice president at Q. This is CodeStory.
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Chapter 3: What challenges did Nico face when building the MVP for Qu?
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, mind you. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lappart. And today, how Nico Papadimitriou is fueling the restaurant commerce revolution by helping them break into the digital age. This episode is sponsored by BrainGrid. If you are building with AI coding tools, but your features keep breaking, you need to check out BrainGrid. It is the product management agent for AI builders.
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with his wife and son. He has had an interesting background professionally. He got into finance and experienced all the downside that 2008 had to offer. Post all of that, he started a restaurant at the age of 26 with some folks and quickly realized how difficult it was.
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Chapter 4: How does Qu's technology improve restaurant operations?
After four years, he wanted to start a new thing. But outside of tacking, his wife spent a lot of time watching his son play hockey and engaging with the team at the hockey rink. Nico has observed the restaurant business change, moving towards many different ordering methods, mobile, web, in-person, etc.
At the end of whatever method, the order needed to land inside the black box of the POS system. He wanted to create the plumbing, better yet, the ultimate system to connect it all. This is the creation story of Cube.
Q is a unified commerce platform built for enterprise restaurant chains here in the U.S. primarily. We focus on fast casual and quick service chains. So some of our customers are Jack in the Box and Dave's Hot Chicken, Saladworks and Luke's Lobster, just to name a few. And today, the modern POS needs to go far beyond simply the black plastic box on the countertop.
For a long time, you used to be able to take a transaction in a restaurant or a bar with that 100-pound brass machine sitting on the back shelf. And micros, among a small handful of other technology companies, were pioneers in coming up with more computer-based electronic point-of-sale systems.
And quite frankly, there wasn't a ton of innovation there for a few decades, between the 80s and really the early to mid-2000s. And you started to get to the later 2000s and... there was a proliferation of new order channels, whether it was ordering over the phone. Sure, that's not that different, but it still creates a different workflow.
Or as you fast forward a little bit further, ordering from your laptop at work or ordering from your mobile phone as we continue to move forward, custom mobile applications. These days, of course, ordering from kiosks and through DoorDash and so on and so forth. There's a never-ending increase of orders order channels that restaurants need to service their customers through.
And so Q is that modern incarnation of a foundational technology platform helping restaurant chains conduct commerce across all of those channels and whatever's next.
Let's dive into the MVP of Q, that first version you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools would you use to, or did you use to bring it to life?
We have a couple of MVP stakes in the ground in our history. You know, that first one, the original one, it's funny. It took six or eight weeks and then another couple months of tweaking to get that base level. You can put 10 buttons on a screen. They can have a word on them called sandwich or glass of wine or whatever. And you can tap that button.
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Chapter 5: What strategies does Nico use to build a successful team?
It calculates some tax and creates a running check. If you go all the way back to 13 years ago, we had one that did that. And I remember the first ever site we put it in. Believe it or not, it was a hotel bar at an embassy suites in Silver Spring, Maryland, just outside the D.C. border.
I think they had five beers, maybe three wines by the glass, and they served five barely cooked or almost CPG-like food products. And that was it. It's the next one and the third and the 13th and the 73rd chain that's using your system that becomes exponentially more difficult. So it's almost not getting that MVP out the door. That's the hardest part.
It's, again, winning and then deploying that 60th chain and then the 65th chain and then the 70th. That's where it becomes very difficult. And that's where things like tech debt, as we all love to talk about, and legacy approaches to certain things in your data model or in the architecture that you're deploying become.
They've held many companies back from ever being able to expand beyond 2,000 or 5,000 or 10,000 restaurants. That's again, in the first case, that's our MVP. But we really restacked the entire platform about seven years ago, six and a half years ago. And that's really the birth of Q was about six and a half years ago.
And that one took us 18 months, about 12 months to get into our first few beta restaurants on the new stack. And then another six months or so, getting it into the second and the fifth and the 50th restaurant with the whole new platform. And it took us a couple of years while we were selling and deploying that new platform into net new customers.
It took us a couple of years to migrate all of our existing portfolio over to that new platform. But yeah, that MVP, call it six, six and a half years ago, was a behemoth. When now you have to build an MVP that satisfies dozens of chains and thousands of restaurants.
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Chapter 6: How does Qu approach scalability and security?
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Back in 2016, when I was building my own tech startup, I went on a hunt for that elusive dot com. Looked high, looked low, and guess what I found? Nothing. What I did find cost me an arm and a leg. So I did what every founder does under pressure. Threw in extra letters, settled for the less than optimal name. And here's what I wish someone had said to me back then.
Noah, you're building a tech startup. Just get a .tech domain. Tech startup, .tech domain. It could not be more obvious. It tells investors, customers, and anyone who looks at your website, really, that tech is at the core of your build. And I've kicked myself plenty since, especially when I see the clean and sharp names tech companies have landed on .tech.
Nothing.tech, 1x.tech, Aurora.tech, CES.tech, Ultra.tech, Alice.tech, Neon.tech, Blaze.tech, Pi.tech. You get the idea. So take it from someone who learned it the hard way. If you're building a tech startup, don't overthink it. Get a .tech domain. Let's go from that point then. So I'm curious about how you progressed and matured the version of Q, that really where Q came alive.
I'm curious about that progression maturation process. And to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how do you build your roadmap?
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Chapter 7: What lessons has Nico learned from mistakes made in business?
How do you go about deciding that, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address?
It's easy to go down a path of letting your next most exciting customer dictate that path for you. And in many ways, it seems like that's the most natural and organic path to go down. Keeps your customers happy and, you know, that sounds great. The problem is that if you go down that path, A, it never ends.
Not that there's ever an end in sight regardless, but it never ends because every customer, every unique user has a different perspective on a thing. Now, our ideal customer profile, the slice of the addressable market that we serve are fast, casual, and quick service chains, right? 20, 200, 2000 plus unit chain. Even amongst that very technical,
tightly narrowed operational model, there's still a lot of variation amongst how one chain versus the next versus the third, let alone one franchisee versus a second versus the third, even in the same brand, like to run their business. And so When you look at us compared to our peers at market, we're probably the most narrowly focused unified commerce platform out there in the hospitality space.
Again, fast casual and QSR only and mid-market and enterprise only chains. Even amongst that, there's a backlog of a thousand things that people have asked for and would like a tweak on or something different. And it's actually our responsibility and really where much of our value proposition comes to our customers and to our industry.
To be the filter, to be the thought leader that can understand the challenges from 10 or 30 of our customers and marry those with broader challenges and opportunities that our market is facing and translate that through our lens, through our product organization, which at the end of the day,
is our value proposition to bring product that best suits the needs, almost both the spoken and the unspoken needs of our customers in the market. so that we can help them run their businesses. And I really am very firmly attached to the fact that as soon as you become a custom dev shop for every single one of your customers, you immediately put a timestamp on your product.
It just never goes past that.
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Chapter 8: What does the future hold for Qu and its technology?
It never, it stops innovating and becoming the platform that your customers bought and wanted to go on the journey with you. And so how do you create that roadmap?
It's through a very concerted effort, working with your customers, working within your market, and not just being okay with, but actually challenging yourself, your organization, your leaders to continue to push the boundaries and to continue to think outside the proverbial box in building and bringing to market solutions that better restaurants' day-to-day lives.
So I'm curious about team. How did you go about building your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
Oh man, I wish there was some perfect formula. But I think the reality is that it's a balance of a lot of things. I don't think anything's super unique here, but it's a balance of smart, hardworking folks that are not just willing to, but desirous to roll their sleeves up. It's looking for people that are willing and actually crave asking why.
Not just walking into a room and hearing what's going on and just following suit, but asking why. And equally or even more importantly, bringing innovative solutions to problems. Every company has problems. It doesn't matter whether you're a tech company or a restaurant operator or the government, everything's got problems.
And it's easy for people to sit back and say, oh, there's a problem, there's a problem, there's a problem. The hard part is bringing solutions
not all of those solutions will always be the right perfect best thing right out of the gate but you have to bring solutions and be willing to ask why and be willing to have tough conversations and that's from leaders to entry-level folks that are just out of college and so That's a big piece of it.
Folks that are willing to ask why, folks that roll their sleeves up and look at challenges and opportunities, but also bring solutions. And then there has to be a deep desire to help people through what we're building and delivering. As soon as somebody becomes cynical about something, it's over, they can't be here. That's not going to be helpful.
Doesn't mean they're bad people, doesn't mean anything. Other than the fact that as soon as you start looking at the users of your system, all right, the most important people in the room, aka the users of your system, as anything but who you're working for,
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