645: Warp's Holmes & Llyod
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Okay, welcome to Coder Radio. It's Mike again, as always. Today we have Zach Lloyd from WarpOn again and Ben Holmes, who is their developer guru, I want to say. Even though it's not his real title, I just like it. It sounds better. It's pretty good. We're talking about their relatively new Oz agent system. which is, if you're familiar with the concept of agentic AI, it's Warp's take on it. Pretty cool stuff. It's accessible remotely via a web app. You can, of course, use Warp Terminal and the web and mobile. They have some interesting ideas. They're really pushing this forward in a way In terms of user interface in a way that I think is going to make this a lot more accessible, this is definitely one of the areas where there's, of course, a lot of AI hype out there.
We talk about it all the time. But this area of the agentic AIs, particularly those that can manage other AIs, is really interesting to me. And I think of all the stuff that, come on, we know some of the stuff in the AI world is a little bit hypey, right? A little vapor-y. I think this is actually going to stay where you have one agent managing multiple other agents.
What is Warp's Oz agent system and how does it work?
Think of it, for lack of a better term, if you're in the DevOps world, as like a Kubernetes orchestration type situation. So these are early, early days for this stuff. So, you know... Take everything under grain of salt that I say about my crazy plan to how to orchestrate these AIs. They obviously have their way of doing it, and it seems to be working for them, so that's good. I'll have to check it out. Again, we are, as always, brought to you by the Mad Botter. It's my company. You all know it. We do manage your data end-to-end, and we do custom software development. I'm still running that promo because I think this airs on the 6th. It's currently the 2nd. So I'm running the promo, 10% off for Coder Radio listeners through the end of April.
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How are you guys doing? We're doing great. Thanks for having us on. Good to be back. So let's just jump right in, Ben. Ben, why don't you start us off? Give us the kind of TLDR pitch on what Oz exactly is.
Yeah, totally. And I meant to introduce myself, Ben Holmes, Developer Relations Lead here at Warp. Oz is an agent orchestration platform that helps you use agents in every touchpoint outside of your terminal. I'm sure that you've played with agents locally all the time with Cloud Code, Codex, Warps Agent, whatever you happen to use. Oz is our answer for getting things off of your computer. So if you needed to tag in an agent to... plan out an approach while you're having a Slack conversation. You could trigger a cloud agent that way. You could trigger agents on a schedule. Maybe you need to run weekly reports or detect fraudulent activity, which is one of our workflows. And any other touchpoint that you need an agent to be deployed and you don't want to be at your computer, Oz is kind of the platform to help you do that.
Interesting. So when you say not at my computer, is there some sort of like remote, I don't know, mobile tie-in here or...
Yeah, so anytime you trigger an agent, it's going to spin up in a cloud environment. So we've set these up as configurable Docker containers that can include all the context that you need, including coding repositories, CLI tools, maybe Node or Golang so that it can test its work.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:03–1:14
2
What is Warp's Oz agent system and how does it work?
1:14–15:44
3
How can Oz agents be triggered remotely?
15:44–19:54
4
What are the advantages of using Oz for managing agents?
19:54–21:05
5
How can Oz be integrated into CI workflows?
21:05–27:04