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Coding Chats

AI's Role in Software Development & Navigating the Divide: Data Science vs Software Engineering

31 Jul 2025

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Coding Chats episode 38 - John Crickett and Ryan Varley explore the distinctions between data science and software engineering, the impact of AI on these fields, and the current job market dynamics. They discuss the challenges of scaling start-ups, the importance of clear communication in software development, and the transition from leadership roles back to individual contributor positions. Ryan emphasizes the need for curiosity and seizing opportunities for career growth.Chapters00:00 Data Science vs. Software Engineering05:41 The Evolution of AI and Machine Learning10:52 The Future of AI and Its Impact on Jobs16:11 The Challenges of Requirements Gathering in Software Development23:11 Current Job Market Insights24:47 The Changing Landscape of Job Applications27:04 Navigating the Interview Process30:22 The Impact of AI on Hiring33:42 Scaling Startups: Challenges and Strategies39:51 Transitioning from Leadership to Individual Contributor44:25 Advice for Career GrowthRyan's Links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanvarley/Brilliant People, Exceptional Teams Newsletter: newsletter.ryanvarley.comWebsite: ryanvarley.comTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rvarleyYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@rvarleyJohn's Links:John's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johncrickett/John’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johncrickettJohn's Twitter: https://x.com/johncrickettJohn's Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/johncrickett.bsky.socialCheck out John's software engineering related newsletters: Coding Challenges: https://codingchallenges.substack.com/ which shares real-world project ideas that you can use to level up your coding skills.Developing Skills: https://read.developingskills.fyi/ covering everything from system design to soft skills, helping them progress their career from junior to staff+ or for those that want onto a management track.TakeawaysData science and software engineering have distinct roles and challenges.AI is reshaping the landscape of software development and data science.The job market is currently competitive, requiring applicants to stand out.AI-generated CVs can complicate the hiring process.Scaling startups presents unique challenges that require careful management.Transitioning from leadership to individual contributor roles can be refreshing.Curiosity and taking opportunities are key to career growth.Effective communication is crucial in understanding project requirements.The importance of adapting to changes in the job market.Learning to say no is essential for effective management.

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