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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com slash callconan. Okay, let's get started. Okay, in the past, this slot has usually been a time when I would talk to fans around the world, but today's a little different. I'm gonna talk to someone who's definitely not a fan of mine. No, we've been doing this lately, and I'm really enjoying it. Oscars are coming up soon.
As we tape this, I think it's about three weeks away, And we've been working very hard. I'm working with an incredible team of writers, many of them I've worked with for a long time. And I've been having them come upstairs and chat with me a little bit. And it's been really fun. And that continues today with Laurie Kilmartin. Laurie, thank you for coming on out. Oh, I hope it continues today.
Yes, yes. That's it. You're out. No, Laurie. He was right. It was fun. Get back down there. Laurie, you are an incredible stand up comedian and you've worked with me for a long time and always done an incredible job and worked with me on the Oscars last year. And Laurie has a very special role, which is Laurie, because she's a great stand up.
She's the one that has become my life coach when I go out into the world and try Oscar jokes out. So Lori's the one that says, we're going to get you out there now, Connor. And I say, all right, okay. And you're very verbally abusive. And then you've been picking all these amazing spots. Some of them I've been to before. Some of them I haven't. Yeah. And it's really fun.
But you are so dialed into these places. And then you watch me do my set and you have great instincts about which ones work, which ones may need a tweak, which ones should probably go by their wayside. But let's go back to the beginning, which is you come to my attention. How did that happen? I'm trying to remember. Well, I started on the TBS show. Yeah.
So I think I think that's a that was my third packet. I think I'd done a packet for The Tonight Show and Late Night, too. So the third one worked. Right. Yes. Yeah. Well, The Tonight Show, there wasn't a lot of time there. I don't know if he got around to reading it. I was starting to open the envelope when that thing blew up.
But and subsequently, when you first came to work for me, I had not seen your stand up. And then we toured together and I got to see your your stand up every night, which is phenomenal. Just phenomenal. Oh, thanks. I don't know. I like I look back. I'm like, oh, that bit was still I was still working on it. I got sharper. And but I'm glad you saw because you have that kind of mind.
You're never going to say, oh, yeah, thanks. You're going to say this was a little. But I'm telling you, it was phenomenal. And and you have such a good eye and ear that you've been just a great help to me in terms of. what stuff works, how to tweak a joke when something isn't hitting the ear quite right. And that's really helpful.
And I'm just curious, when did you decide, okay, I'm gonna be a standup? Because that's a leap that everyone comes to differently.
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Chapter 2: What unique journey led Laurie Kilmartin to stand-up comedy?
How did it happen for you? Well, I would I had sort of I dropped out of college and I had kind of a breakdown due to various things all colliding at once in my head. You know, you were a very good athlete. I was OK. I was a swimmer. I swam for UCLA, but I was like it was they were in a rebuilding phase like I would never make the team now. Yeah.
They were like low-level Division I when I was there. And so, yeah. And then I had quit swimming and whatever. So you go through this period of your life where things are rough. Exactly. And then I started to... I don't know. I went and saw some stand-up. And I'm not the only one who's come to stand-up this way where... you see some great standup and you're like, oh, I could never do that.
That's amazing. And then you see someone who's not good and they're on the bill and you're like, wait a minute. Yeah. That person's a comic? They're the true inspirations. They are. No one ever says that. The true inspirations are people like, how did that ass get up there? Yes, exactly, exactly. So I saw a bunch of that. And so I started in San Francisco because I'm from the Bay Area.
So that's where I kind of- And San Francisco is such a great place. It's great, yeah. For standup. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. There's this guy named, oh my God, his name was, I forget his last name. He was a former porn star and Native American and was like one of like 11 or 16 children, some crazy backstory. But he was a bartender at the Holy City Zoo.
And he knew Robin Williams and he was around when Robin had started, too. And so he was sort of the mother bird of all of us newer comics and giving us stage timing tips and stuff like that. And like, even though I know I never had a bad situation with him, even though his backstory sounds troublesome. Yeah, but he can't do. Yeah. And he saw he saw something in you.
He's like, OK, he was encouraging you. Yeah, he was encouraging, but he's also running a class. So anytime someone's paying, they're always encouraging. But they're encouraging, but also they don't think you're ready just yet. One more session. I ran into the same thing in improv. Same thing in improv. You're very good. I think a little more work. Really? How many levels does the school have?
There's 11 more levels. You said this was the last one. I forgot about the other 11. So just make that check out, too. So you're doing that. And you had you worked on television shows before? Had you written for other comics? Because that's a very different thing. You write for yourself and then writing for someone else's voice. Yeah, it is a big it is a big thing.
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Chapter 3: How does Laurie Kilmartin contribute to Oscar writing?
And it's weird because you can definitely separate those two voices. There's never been a joke I've written for you or anybody else that I would have done myself. So people always think that, you know, how must be so hard to give up that joke? It's like, no, no, it didn't would not work in my act about me complaining about being a mother. You know, it's really funny.
Yeah, many times I've seen you do. Conan's like, I'm not a single mom. Why does she keep giving me this stuff? I tried it last night, it killed. Yeah, it's fascinating to me because that's another fun thing I get to do. If I see you or Brian Kiley tell a really funny joke, I get to say, oh, too funny for me, huh? Like, why didn't you give me that? You'd be like, you idiot. You never breastfed.
Oh, oh. Oh, you're right. Kylie did, though, so he deserves to tell it. Yeah, exactly. I breastfed Kylie. What the fuck? One tag too far. Yeah. I always go too far. I don't do the late night, my late night show anymore. And I think a while ago, Jimmy Kimmel contacted me and he was asking me about this Laurie Kilmartin. And I said, you are an absolute fool if you do not hire Laurie Kilmartin.
I can't believe that conversation happened. She is the best. She is the best. But Jimmy was high at the time and forgot. And then I had to call him and tell him again. He was like, oh, yeah, yeah, okay. So you've been killing it, not just for me, but for Jimmy as well. And now we're once again working on the Oscars and I'm curious, how do you think it's going so far? We're getting close.
I think we're way ahead of where we were this time last year. I think we have a lot more jokes that are ready. We have a lot of jokes. We do. And it's like they could all change in the next three weeks, too, because we keep coming up with. Yeah, it's we keep coming up with new ones. And then we always allow for last year. I remember the actual show is a moving target. Yeah.
You can't lock down what you're going to do a month out because in the world we live in now, things change day to day. Right. And something that's a joke we might have thought was really funny in December is now like, what were we thinking? That's not even something people think about anymore. That's out of the news. No one cares about that.
The big thing I have to fight is sometimes I just start to get tired of a joke because I've... It's been with me for a while. Right, right, right. And that's always been a little bit my issue when we toured together and I had a, I don't know, like a 40-minute stand-up hunk. Yeah. I remembered sometimes being, I don't want to say that again. Yeah, yeah. I said that last night. So...
I think that's one of the luxuries I've always had is just riffing foolishly about different things. And I get bored if I have to say the same thing over and over and over again. In fact, there's one joke you told last night. I'm like, oh, you got to give that one a rest for a little bit because I think you are tired of it, you know? So, but I won't say it now, but yeah. Right. That's good.
We should try them all out right now. Yeah. let's do it and everyone's really all the writers are really mad at me you just that thing went out what you just burned 80 jokes you just burned 80 jokes Yeah, that can happen where I just start to feel, it's almost like my brain becomes overly familiar with it. And when something's no longer magical and fun to me, I can't fake it.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Laurie share about the writing process for different voices?
Yeah, it is fun. I have to say it's a lot of work and it's nerve wracking, but it is fun. And then, you know, you just and then you're always thinking, I hope it's a good room. Last year, I was I mean, I think last year I was thinking, how's it going to be a good room? And they were good.
Yeah, I mean, we had the fires, of course, you know, and then I feel like at this time last year, we were also awash in Sofia Carla Gascon drama. Oh, that's right. Yes. We had so many shows about her. Amelia Perez. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, we were just trying to figure out, again, is that scandal? Wait, what's the trajectory now? That's the big story today. Yeah.
But will it still be the big story in a week or how do we handle it? Is she going to be there? Is she going to be there? And what's a joke that isn't doesn't go too far this way or that way? And just it's a lot of trying to navigate. Yeah. You know, let's pitch the sail correctly so it catches the wind in just the right way.
And it's and we boy, we get into arguments, you know, which is probably happening right now. Just a four below us. Yeah. My ritual is I like to come, I like to kick the door open in a very dramatic way. Yes. And you guys all go, whoa! And then I come in and I think I waste time mostly. You do. I do all my bits. You guys are patiently.
Yeah, we watched, what's the, what did we watch yesterday for like a half hour? Sarah Jessica Parker, the sequel. And Just Like That. Just Like That, yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone was talking about there's something on that show. So we watched that. I said, let's call it up. And so we're watching that.
And then we all, you know, and I said at that moment, if someone from the Academy comes by and we're all watching it just like that, And just like that, they're going to say we're screwed. Yeah. But yeah, we will pull up things on the Internet. I mean, it's a typical writer's room where you have to waste time. I maintain that wasting time is somehow useful if we're all laughing.
But I might just be trying to justify. I was going to say, I think you're just telling yourself that so you can waste everybody's time. And just like that, you guys watch that podcast. For a half an hour? I think so. It was really enjoyable. A whole episode. Yes. There was an episode, specifically it took place in a stand-up club. Yeah, of a comedy concert. Yeah, yeah.
I think I know what you're talking about. So it was just, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, we start chatting and then the next thing you know, we're all watching television. And then I can always tell that, oh, I should have left 10 minutes ago. What I try and do is leave on a laugh. If I get a big laugh, I try and get out the door fast.
But if someone stops me on my way out the door, then I think I have to get another laugh. It's terrible. Well, it's the version of a writer's room what you do on stage when you're messing around with the audience up front. It kind of gets that part of your brain going, but it's not the official jokes. You know, I think it's a good reprieve for the brain.
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Chapter 5: How does Laurie Kilmartin balance stand-up and writing for television?
Of course, we won't have that problem tonight because we got plenty of food at the buffet. Who I'm just saying... I'm allowed to do it. Oh, man. Well, this is really fun. And I am honored and thrilled that you helping me out again. Thank you for having me. You are the best. And thank you to Jimmy Kimmel for letting me have eight weeks off to come here, too. Yeah. And I'm sorry, Jimmy, but yeah.
And he's mad about it too. I can tell. No, you know what? And true thanks to him because when you were on my staff writing jokes for me, I would not have let you go for eight weeks for anything. If you were doing a blood transfusion, I would not let you go. But so thank you very much, Jimmy. And yeah, let's get back downstairs. Let's get back downstairs. Conan O'Brien needs a fan.
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