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Confronting The Line

E50 Beyond the Guru: Building a Safer Self-Help Community w/ the folks at SEEKSafely.org

22 Oct 2025

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In this episode, I am joined by Dr. Glenn Doyle, SEEK Safely Board President, and Jean Brown, manager and board member of SEEK, to discuss several upcoming events and programs we are launching in the coming months.SEEK Safely was born in response to the tragedy that took three people's lives, including Jean's sister Kirby Brown, due to an irresponsibly run pseudo sweat lodge. Almost 13 years later, the self-help and wellness industries continue to be among the most risky and unregulated spaces out there.Listen in as we discuss the launch of what we are calling the SEEK Safely movement. We'll cover the 'whys' and 'wherefores' of the upcoming programs and opportunities SEEK and iLumn8.Life are collaborating on. We'll also discuss why we believe those of us who have been impacted in both good and bad ways are precisely the right people to advocate for a safer and more ethical self-help space.RESOURCES & LINKS: SEEK Safely offerings https://ilumn8.life/lp/seek-safely-programs/All ticket sales will help support the SEEK Safely movementLearn all about SEEKSafely.org here. Read Anne’s Book Is This A Cult: Confronting the Line Between Exploitation and Transformation and find other pods and resources →  https://isthisacultbook.com/ If you or someone you know is wrestling with recovery after being involved in a high-control group, relationship or any organization, check out the Healthy Healing and Recovery Group w/ Rachel Bernstein  https://ilumn8.life/op/lgat-recovery-group/ MODERATION NOTE: While healthy debate and discussion regarding the topics being discussed is encouraged, personal (ad hominem) attacks on people, places or things will be deleted. FINALLY Please consider supporting this channel which helps us to offer more and better content and resources such as the healing group w/ Rachel.  Contributing also supports the learning and healing needs of folks, no matter their ability to pay, who are waking up to and leaving high demand and cult(ish) groups.  Click to join one of the membership options available via this YouTube Channel @ConfrontingtheLine. 

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