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Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast

Building Hobby Lobby's Legacy—One Leader at a Time | Mart Green

15 May 2025

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What if the key to building a lasting legacy is choosing the right people? In this episode, Mart Green shares lessons from leading at Hobby Lobby, launching Mardel, and building teams with vision and purpose. Watch video and download the leader guide: https://www.life.church/leadershippodcast/building-hobby-lobbys-legacy-one-leader-at-a-time-mart-green

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0.109 - 17.043 Mart Green

Yeah, I'd say early mistakes that I learned was sometimes I knew that I didn't have the right person, but I kept just hoping it would work out, making that hard decision to sell somebody a different career. So I would say early on I did not let people go as early as I should have, even though I knew I'd hired wrong because I was learning how to hire.

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17.303 - 28.292 Mart Green

So obviously my skills weren't too good at doing that in the beginning. I learned through the process that actually it's a double negative. One, I'm hiring somebody that I don't need, is not able to do the job. And two, they're not getting ready to go to their next opportunity.

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32.677 - 52.842 Craig Groeschel

Hey, it's great to have you back for another episode of the Leadership Podcast. And today, I have a guest that is going to encourage you, equip you, and inspire you in a massive way. I want to tell you about my very good friend, Mark Green, who is the founder of Bardell Christian and Education Supply with over 40 locations and over 800 employees.

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54.602 - 77.774 Craig Groeschel

Mart is the Ministry Investment Officer of Hobby Lobby, a business started by his family with over 1,000 stores across the United States. He is one of the most successful business leaders truly that I know anywhere in the world and one of the biggest forces for good, making a difference in the world. Mart has a new book out called Learning to be Loved. I'll show you the book if you're watching.

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77.794 - 99.927 Craig Groeschel

It's a great book, the everyday believer's guide to a rich relationship with God. Outside of all these business and ministry accomplishments, this is one of the most humble men that I know, one of the most generous men alive today. and full of integrity. It's an honor to have you on.

99.987 - 115.892 Craig Groeschel

Mart, on one hand, I've got five trusted voices that I call when I need good advice, and you are on that hand as one of the five top most trusted voices. And so I'm really excited to introduce you to our leadership community. Welcome aboard.

116.052 - 121.434 Mart Green

Well, thank you, Craig. And you've given me a lot of advice in my life. So I have less than five I get that from.

121.954 - 137.05 Craig Groeschel

Well, maybe I've given you advice before you ask, and that's one of my weaknesses. But I'm really glad to have you on, and I want to hear a lot of your story. But one of the things I like to ask early on, because it's interesting to hear from our guests –

137.811 - 153.901 Craig Groeschel

Was there a time in your life, maybe early on, before you had any of the success that you see that you recognize, oh, wait a minute, maybe I have some leadership gifts or the ability to make a difference in people's life? Do you remember the first time you recognized that?

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