Simon Sinek Unfiltered: The Trap Leaders Must Avoid

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What are the traps leaders must avoid?

Simon Sinek 0:00
We have stupidity, we have insecurity, we have ego, we have all of the things, and I have them too, right? We have all the same issues as every other company on the planet. The difference is how we address those issues when we have them.

How can leaders better address issues in their organizations?

Craig Groeschel 0:17
Hey, great to have you back for another episode of the Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast. This is a bonus episode. We just dropped the first episode of the year, The Six Habits Great Leaders Avoid. We covered three in the last episode. On the first Thursday of next month, we're gonna look at the next three. Today, I have a guest for you that is going to inspire you and perhaps push you. Now, for the record, Simon Sinek hates when people go through his resume, so I'm not gonna do that. If I did, I'd tell you he's New York Times bestselling author, and I'd tell you which books he wrote, but I'm not gonna tell you the books. And I'd tell you about his viral interviews and such.

What defines effective leadership according to Simon Sinek?

Craig Groeschel 0:57
But I will tell you just personally, I have heard him speak many times at the Global Leadership Summit, and he is a speaker that's very principled, and it's pushed me. Sometimes I push back, but every time I'm challenged by him. And this is an interview that is going to push you as well. So let's dive in today. It's valuable content. This is Simon Sinek. Simon, hey, man, it is a great honor to have you on the podcast. Nice to be here. Thanks for having me. I've been learning from you for years. And so my goal is to ask you at least two or three questions no one's ever asked you before and try to draw some untapped brilliance out of you as we go. I look forward to it. I mean, I've heard a lot of questions over the years.
Craig Groeschel 1:44
Yeah, I may not succeed, but I'm going to try. I'll start with a relatively easy one before I throw you some curveballs. But you're sincerely one of the top voices on leadership alive today, which is amazing. But you didn't probably start out confident in your leadership. Was there a time, Simon, like somewhere early on in your life, maybe as a kid or a young adult, that you recognize perhaps you had some leadership gifts?
Simon Sinek 2:12
Um, I don't think I ever recognize that there were leadership gifts. Uh, I, I mean, I, I go, I'll tell you a story from junior high school. Uh, So when I was in junior high school, middle school, my best friend was Adam. And Adam and I had a fight one day, as little kids do. And when I got on the bus the next day to go to school, nobody would sit next to me, because Adam told them not to sit next to me. He was the leader of our gang. He was the leader of the pack. And I remember the distinct feeling that someone else was responsible for my happiness and my friendships around me. One person. And I had to make him happy, otherwise I had no friends the next day. And it sort of, as a little kid, I was like, that's ridiculous. And at a pretty young age, I started experimenting with being my own self. And really like baby steps, right? So I went to American middle school. We wore jeans and sneakers and white socks and t-shirts to school, you know? And I remember I started wearing black shoes with white socks. Everybody else wore sneakers. I wore black shoes.
Simon Sinek 3:23
And I was just dipping my toe, right? And then by the time I got to high school, I started experimenting with brightly colored crazy socks, right? Every day I wore brightly colored crazy socks. And I sort of got more and more comfortable being me. I got more and more comfortable people making fun of me for that one thing that I was experimenting with. And I don't think it came until many years later where some of these skills that I had learned and some of these things that I had practiced, like doing what I believe and it's okay if people didn't like me for it. um that i learned later would help me in a leadership position because i didn't think i was ever a leader until somebody said oh this person now reports to you you know i'm like oh i'm a leader now and i made every mistake that you can make as a first-time leader so i i don't think i've ever seen myself that way and i and i think i've only started to see myself that way very recently hmm

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