Crash The Pond: An Anaheim Ducks Podcast

Leo Carlsson Returns, Cutter Gauthier Fallout, Injury Updates

16 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Leo Carlsson's return to play, the fallout from the Cutter Gauthier trade, injury updates, and much more. Enjoy!Support th...

Jamie Drysdale Traded To Philadelphia For Cutter Gauthier

09 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down the Jamie Drysdale trade to Philadelphia, what it means for the Ducks blueline, and what kind of player the Ducks are g...

Zegras Hits Michigan, Trade Deadline Targets, Coaching Changes

03 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down the Ducks' most recent struggles and try to make sense of what's gone right, what's gone wrong, and how to fix it. We a...

Ducks vs. Red Wings Recap, Winning Streak, Terry Is Back

19 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we recap the Ducks thrilling 4-3 victory over the Detroit Red Wings, the 2-game winning stream, Troy Terry's return to form, and much...

Ducks vs. Islanders Breakdown, Zegras/Drysdale/McTavish Updates

14 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down the Ducks latest matchup against the Islanders, what's gone right and wrong in the last 12 games, and updates on Trevor...

Ducks Quarter Season Evaluation

07 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we look at the biggest positives and negatives of the season so far. We give flowers to John Gibson, Pavel Mintyukov, Leo Carlsson, a...

John Gibson Hot Streak, How to Fix the Losing, Laine to Anaheim?

22 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks' recent losing streak and how it can be fixed, John Gibson's strong play, the possibility of Patrik Laine to Ana...

Ducks Win Thriller In Nashville, Carlsson Hat Trick, Zegras Injury Update

15 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks thrilling comeback win in Nashville, Leo Carlsson's hat trick, Zegras's injury, and much more. Enjoy! Suppo...

Ducks 6 Game Win Streak, Mintyukov Shines, Gibson Steps Up

07 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks' 6 game win streak, Pavel Mintyukov's excellent start, John Gibson standing on his head, and much more. Enjoy!Su...

Ducks Win 4 in a Row, Carlsson Development Plan, Zegras Benched

31 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks 4 game win streak, Leo Carlsson's development plan, Trevor Zegras being benched, and much more. Enjoy! Supp...

Ducks Show Growth, Leo Carlsson Debut, Zegras Shines

24 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down Leo Carlsson's debut, Trevor Zegras's growth, the Ducks' progress as a team, and more. Enjoy!Support the show:&nbs...

Ducks Hockey Is Back, Vegas/Carolina Game Breakdowns

17 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down the first two games of the Ducks season, highlight great performances from Mason McTavish, Pavel Mintyukov, Jackson LaC...

Drysdale Signs, Ducks Season Preview, Roster Cuts

10 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Jamie Drysdale signing with the Ducks, the latest training camp roster cuts, and our expectations for the upcoming se...

Trevor Zegras Signs With the Ducks

03 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Trevor Zegras is back with the Ducks! We break down the 3-year, $5.75 million deal Zegras signed on Monday with the Ducks. We also talk about Alex Kil...

Zellweger Shines, Gudas Fan Favorite, Zegras/Drysdale

29 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the latest on Trevor Zegras and Jamie Drysdale, Olen Zellwger's preseason performance, Radko Gudas becoming a fan favorite...

Zegras Negotiations, Rookie Faceoff, Training Camp

21 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the latest on Trevor Zegras and Jamie Drysdale, standout performances from the Rookie Faceoff, and training camp lines. En...

Is Trevor Zegras Underrated?

12 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, Derek Lee from the Sporting Tribune and Patrick Present of Inside the Rink/Late Arrivals Podcast join the show to preview the Ducks s...

Trevor Zegras Contract Update

05 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss an update on the Trevor Zegras situation, and what the hold up could potentially be. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @m...

Ducks Trade for Ilya Lyubushkin

22 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down the Ducks trading for Ilya Lyubushkin and what it means for the rest of the team moving forward. Enjoy!Support the show...

Ducks Offseason Rambling

15 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we answer listener questions, including Trevor Zegras romance, off-season moves, Giguere versus Hebert all time, and much more! Enjoy...

Terry Signs Contract, Lundestrom Tears Achilles, Stalock Joins Ducks

08 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Troy Terry signing a 7 year contract with the Ducks, Isac Lundestrom tearing his Achilles, and Alex Stalock signing in Ana...

5 Most Interesting Ducks Storylines

27 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the latest in the Troy Terry negotiations, as well as 5 storylines we are most interested in going into the Ducks season. ...

Ducks Lineup Prediction, Lukas Dostal Signs Extension

18 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we map out our version of the Ducks depth chart, and come up with our ideal lineup for next season, including forward lines, defense ...

Terry Files for Arbitration, Free Agent Targets

11 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Troy Terry filing for salary arbitration, the Alex DeBrincat trade, remaining Ducks free agent targets, and much more. Enj...

Ducks Sign Killorn/Gudas, Gibson/DeBrincat Rumors

04 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks signing Alex Killorn and Radko Gudas on day 1 of free agency, the John Gibson scandal, and Alex DeBrincat to Ana...

Ducks Draft Leo Carlsson At Second Overall

29 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Anaheim Ducks selecting Leo Carlsson at second overall, why they did not select Adam Fantilli, and the new 30th Annive...

Ducks Free Agent/Trade Targets

21 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss what the next few weeks of trades and free agency could hold for the Ducks, including who they should target. Enjoy! ...

Mitch Brown from Elite Prospects Talks Ducks Draft

13 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we talk about with Mitch Brown from Elite Prospects about who the Ducks should draft with the second overall pick, as well as rating ...

Ducks Hire Greg Cronin As Head Coach

06 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks hiring Greg Cronin as the 11th head coach in franchise history, updates on what Trevor Zegras's next contract wi...

Late Arrivals/Crash the Pond Crossover Episode

16 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, the Late Arrivals crew joins us to discuss who the Ducks might pick with the second overall pick, prospect talk, and much m...

Ducks Get Second Overall Pick

09 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks landing the second overall pick, and who they might take: Adam Fantilli, Leo Carlsson, Matvei Michkov?Support th...

Ducks vs Kings over the next 5 years, Q and A (Featuring Derek Lee)

02 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss who will be in a better spot to contend in 5 years and answer your questions. Enjoy! Support the show: Get 20% OFF @mansca...

McIlvane hired as Gulls Head Coach, Q and A

27 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks hiring Matt McIlvane as the Gulls' head coach and answer your Questions. Enjoy! Support the show: Get 20% OFF @m...

Ducks Coaching Candidates, Future Outlook

18 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the latest on the Ducks' coaching search and the future outlook of the team. Enjoy!Support the show: Get 10% OFF tick...

Ducks Get Highest Bedard Odds, Eakins Let Go

15 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks finishing last and getting the highest odds at drafting Connor Bedard. We also discuss the Ducks letting go of D...

Ducks Making History: Listener Q&A

04 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks' historic stretch of losing, what next year's lineup will look like, and answer listener questions. Enjoy!Suppor...

Nesterenko Shines in Anaheim, Ducks Bold Predictions

29 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Nikita Nesterenko's first slate of games in Anaheim, and then provide our own bold predictions about the future of the Duc...

Ducks End of Season Awards, Nesterenko Signs

21 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we hand out individual awards for this season's Ducks, such as Best Foward, Best Defenseman, Most Improved player, and many others. W...

Top Ducks Storylines to End the Season

14 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we talk about our top storylines to watch as the Ducks season winds down. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shippi...

Ducks Trade Deadline Breakdown, Verbeek Assessment

09 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down the Ducks trade deadline moves, including the John Klingberg and Dmitry Kulikov trades. We then take stock of Pat Verbe...

Ducks Trade Deadline Update, Thrun Traded, Gibson Hot Streak

01 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the latest updates regarding the Ducks' trade deadline outlook, Henry Thrun's singing rights being traded to San Jose, Joh...

Ducks Trade Deadline Preview

21 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we predict what the Ducks can get at the trade deadline for John Klingberg, Dmitry Kulikov, Adam Henrique, Derek Grant, and many othe...

Gibson Trade Rumblings, LaCombe To Sign, Chychrun

14 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the latest John Gibson trade rumblings, Jackson LaCombe signing with Anaheim, and whether or not Jakob Chychrun makes sens...

Ducks vs. Stars Recap, More Henrique Trade Talk, Ducks Jersey Rankings

07 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we recap the Ducks-Stars matchups, discuss more Adam Henrique trade scenarios, power rank the all-time Ducks jerseys, and much more. ...

Ducks All-Star Break Takeaways, Zegras Controversy, Henrique to Vegas?

03 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss our three biggest takeaways on the state of the Ducks at the All-Star break, the Zegras-Stecher controversy, Henrique trad...

Zegras Hot Streak, Ducks Coaching Candidates, New Second Line

24 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Trevor Zegras's recent hot streak, Anaheim's new second line, a full list of Ducks' potential coaching candidate...

Zegras Back to Center, Henrique Potential Fit in Edmonton, Fowler Trade Rumors

17 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we recap the Ducks-Penguins matchup, including line changes from Dallas Eakins that placed Trevor Zegras back at center. We also...

McTavish vs. Zegras Debate, Lineup Changes, Ducks Goalie GOAT Rankings

10 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks’ recent lineup changes that have Mason McTavish as the first-line center and Trevor Zegras as a winger on...

Gibson Returns, Henrique Trade Possibility, Power Play Struggles

04 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss John Gibson's return to action, whether or not the Ducks should trade Adam Henrique, Anaheim's power play hitting a snag, ...

Dostal and McTavish Continue to Shine. Ducks Penalty Troubles

27 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks last week of games, covering standout performances from Lukas Dostal and Mason McTavish, penalty trouble holding...

Ducks Winning Streak, McTavish Rising, Dostal Shines

20 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks back-to-back wins, Mason McTavish's stellar play, Lukas Dostal's 46-save classic performance, and much more!Supp...

Ducks Trade Chips, Coaching Changes, Zegras/Terry Contracts

15 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we answer listener questions regarding who the Ducks may trade this season, if a change is coming behind the bench, Zegras and Terry'...

Verbeek Speaks, Ducks Quarter Season Review

29 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down Verbeek's comments on the Beeker and we dive into a quarter-season review of the Ducks.Support the show:Get 20% OFF @ma...

Ducks Trade Rumors, St. Louis Recap, Possible Changes

22 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode we discuss the latest reports from Elliotte Friedman that the Ducks could soon be active on the trade market, recap the Monday night t...

Where Do the Ducks Go From Here?

15 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss what happens next for the Ducks after their difficult start to the season. Is it time to look to the future, make benches ...

How We Would Fix the Ducks

08 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we look at why Mason McTavish should be a center, how we would fix the forward lines, John Gibson's play in net, and much more. Enjoy...

Ducks Back in the Win Column, Drysdale Injured

01 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks getting back to their winning ways with an exciting overtime win against Toronto, Jamie Drysdale being out for 4...

Panic Button Time in Anaheim?

25 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks early season struggles, what has gone wrong, what has gone well, and what changes the team can make to turn thin...

Ducks Early Season Breakdown

19 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks' first 4 games of the season, looking at the success of the Zegras-Terry combo, Mason Mctavish's play, John Gibs...

Ducks Season Preview, Opening Night Roster Announced

11 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we give you a full Ducks season preview and review the freshly announced opening night roster. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 25% OFF Tru...

Ducks Preseason Updates, Roster Cuts, Zegras/Vaakanainen Injuries

04 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the latest updates from the Ducks preseason, how the roster is shaping up, injuries, and much more. Support the show:Get 2...

Ducks Roster Predictions, Captaincy, Preseason News

27 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Pat Verbeek's comments about the captaincy, what the Ducks forward and defense groups will look like, the latest preseason...

Ducks Rookie Faceoff Breakdown

20 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down the Rookie Faceoff, discussing standout performances from the likes of Olen Zellweger, Jacob Perreault, Tristan Luneau,...

Kulikov Trade Breakdown, Ducks Playoff Chances

06 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks acquiring Dmitry Kulikov from the Minnesota Wild in exchange for future considerations and what it means for the...

McTavish wins WJC MVP

23 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Mason McTavish's historic World Junior performance, Olen Zellweger's own performance, whether McTavish/Zellweger shou...

Eric Stephens Talks John Klingberg Signing, Ducks Off-Season, Covering Getzlaf

02 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, Eric Stephens, Ducks beat writer for The Athletic, jumps on the show to discuss the John Klingberg signing, what it means for Anaheim...

Pat Verbeek Offseason Comments, Lundestrom Files for Arbitration

19 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Pat Verbeek's comments about the Ducks' off-season moves so far, and what can be taken away from them to better understand...

Ducks Free Agent Frenzy Recap, Sonny Milano Gone

14 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down day 1 of free agent frenzy, looking at the Frank Vatrano and Ryan Strome signings, as well as the decision to not bring...

Ducks First Round NHL Draft Breakdown

08 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the first round of the NHL draft, looking at the Ducks first selection at 10th overall in Pavel Mintyukov, as well as the ...

Draft Analyst Mitchell Brown Talks 2022 NHL Draft, Ducks Targets, Prospect Analytics

06 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, Mitchell Brown, Director of North American Scouting for Elite Prospects joins us to talk about all things NHL Draft, Ducks prospects,...

Draft Expert Chris Peters Talks 2022 NHL Draft, Ducks Prospects, Trevor Zegras

01 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we have NHL draft expert Chris Peters on to discuss the upcoming NHL Draft from an Anaheim Ducks perspective. We also talk about the ...

Ducks Off-Season Preview, Manson Return to Anaheim?

28 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we get you set for the Ducks' off-season, previewing the draft, trades, and free agency, discussing who we think the Ducks may end up...

John Gibson Trade Rumors Intensify, Ducks Trade Targets

14 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down the recent reports surrounding John Gibson, and the Ducks' potential frustrations with him, looking at who to beli...

Ducks Off-Season Moves, Lundestrom's Future

24 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we take questions from listeners, discussing topics such as what the Ducks may do this off-season in terms of signings and trades, wh...

Gulls Coaches Fired, Gibson Trade Discussion, Fiala to Anaheim?

17 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Pat Verbeek's comments regarding the Ducks off-season, changes behind the bench in San Diego, John Gibson potentially...

Ducks Draft Lottery Results, Potential Picks/Trades, New Assistant GM

11 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks getting the 10th overall pick in the NHL Draft, potential picks, whether or not they trade the pick, Rob DiMaio ...

Ducks Regular Season Recap, Off-Season Preview

03 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the season that was for the Anaheim Ducks, looking at the different positives and negatives throughout the year. Afterward...

Ryan Getzlaf's Final Game

26 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down Ryan Getzlaf's final game, what he meant to the franchise, who the next captain will be, and much more. Enjoy!If you’...

Gibson Trade Rumors, Zegras Calder Debate, Getzlaf/Perry Farewell

19 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the recent John Gibson trade rumors, whether or not Trevor Zegras should still be in the Calder conversation, Getzlaf and ...

Getzlaf Retires, Eakins Back Next Season, College Free Agents

12 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Ryan Getzlaf's retirement, the Ducks bringing back Dallas Eakins next season, and Henry Thrun/Jackson Lacombe's free agenc...

Troy Terry-Jay Beagle Incident Controversy

05 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the incident between the Arizona Coyotes and Anaheim Ducks, where Troy Terry was injured by Jay Beagle. We also discuss Tr...

Ducks Prospect Talk, Post-Deadline Struggles, Next Year's Blueline

29 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the recent signing of Ducks prospect Josh Lopina, the impending signing of Henry Thrun, as well as the outstanding season ...

Ducks Trade Deadline Breakdown

22 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down every trade that the Ducks made at the trade deadline, including the deals for Hampus Lindholm, Rickard Rakell, Josh Ma...

Josh Manson Trade Breakdown

15 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode we discuss the Josh Manson trade and what it means for the Ducks' present and future, John Gibson's struggles, and what moves could co...

Comtois Trade Rumors, Trade Deadline Updates, Verbeek Analytics Comment

08 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Max Comtois popping up in trade rumors, updates on the Ducks trade deadline plans, Pat Verbeek discussing the role of anal...

Verbeek Trade Deadline Comments, Playoff Hopes Dwindling, Murray Returns

01 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down why the Anaheim Ducks have seen their playoff hopes crash as of late, Pat Verbeek comments on the trade deadline, Bob M...

Ducks Western Canadian Road Trip, Dave Nonis Leaves Organization

22 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks recent Canadian road trip, how Anaheim's power play has shown flashes of life, Dave Nonis leaving the organizati...

Rakell Trade Talk, Ducks Late Game Tactics

15 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Tyler Toffoli trade, and how it might impact what the Anaheim Ducks can obtain for Rickard Rakell. Afterwards, we disc...

Zegras Shines at All-Star Game, Ducks Q&A

08 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Trevor Zegras stealing at the All Star Game, and then get into listener questions about the trade deadline, prospects, and...

Ducks Hire Pat Verbeek as GM

04 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The Anaheim Ducks have hired Pat Verbeek as their new general manager. We break down the hire and what it means for the short and long term of the fra...

Big Ducks News Coming Soon, Trade Deadline Rumors

01 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Anaheim's recent East Coast road trip, the team's inconsistent play, the GM search coming to an end soon, what Rakell/Lind...

Ducks Back to Winning Ways, Troy Terry is an All Star

25 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down the Ducks exciting wins against the Tampa Bay Lightning and Boston Bruins, and how they have been able to defy a litany...

Ducks GM Search Intensifies, Anaheim Playoff Hopes in Danger?

18 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks' GM search kicking into high gear, as reported by numerous insiders. We look into the different candidates that ...

Ducks GM Search, Dostal Shines, Chychrun Trade Talk

11 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks ongoing GM search, NHL debuts for Brayden Tracey, Jacob Perreault, and Lukas Dostal, as well as the possibility ...

Ducks COVID Issues, Cam Fowler Appreciation

04 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the growing COVID outbreak, break down the last three games, show Cam Fowler some badly needed appreciation, and much more...

Ducks Continue to Win, Comtois Returns, Jakob Chychrun to Anaheim?

21 Dec 2021

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss Anaheim's pause in the season, and whether or not it makes sense for the Ducks to pursue a trade for Jakob Chychrun from t...

Zegras and Milano Break the Internet

14 Dec 2021

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we break down Trevor Zegras and Sonny Milano's internet-breaking highlight reel goal against the Buffalo Sabres, as well as some of t...

Ducks New Top Line, Getzlaf/Henrique Injuries, Gibson Trade?

07 Dec 2021

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks last week of play, looking at the success of the Milano-Zegras-Rakell line, injuries to Ryan Getzlaf and Adam He...

Zegras Line Heats Up, Martin Madden Rumors, DeBrusk to Anaheim?

30 Nov 2021

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we look back at the last week of Ducks hockey, gauging how the team performed against top flight competition and how that affects our...

Getzlaf Hits 1000, Ducks Winning Streak, Comtois Injured

23 Nov 2021

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks winning streak, Ryan Getzlaf hitting 1,000 points, Troy Terry's point streak , Mason McTavish being sent down to...