Life and Learnings of a Muralist with Phoebe Nelson Pandr Design Co

In this episode, Phoebe Nelson of Pandrd Design Co shares her journey from in house graphic designer to full time muralist (yes that's painting cool designs on walls all over the world). We dive into changing the mindset around be grateful to be an artist, aka the starving artist, to get paid for your work, and value what you do. She shares about lessons learned about sexism and speaking with confidence, why site visits are not necessary, and how her contract has developed over the years. We discuss the slippery slope artists face when working for free to build a portfolio as well as those that are doing it for "fun" and the broader impact that has on the artist community. We get into money talk. Her biggest money challenge in the last 3 years and her biggest financial win along with new things she's trying out this year, how she finds assistants in the places she's painting, and lessons learned about Check out Phoebe's work, her resources for artist, and more:Instagram: @PANDRDesignCoWebsite: panderdesignco.comDesigning for Murals Workshop Nov 12, 2025Keep the conversation going with us here at Creative Camp:Drop a DM over on ⁠Instagram⁠ @creativecamp.pro and share you thoughts on the episode: something you learned, related to, or someone to interview. Keep us caffinated and show us you care ⁠buying us a coffee⁠ (we love chai lattes)Sign up for our weekly-ish ⁠Camp Bulletin⁠ ., where we drop nuggets about industry insights, creative opportunities and the latest podcast show.Did you know that if you leave a review, or a comment, it helps get our show in front of others? Yep. It helps us get found among the plethora of podcasts. And if you really love the episode and want to others to listen too, share a screenshot or a snippet on your social feed and tag us. So we can love you back.How can we work together:1:1 Creative Sidekick: Shelly's been a business coach/stragist and photographer since 2010. She's opening up limited spots to work together in 2026. Sponsor the podcast: yes, we're looking for both episode and show sponsors. If you want to get in front of creatives (photographers, artists, graphic designs, etc) here's where you'll find them.we have creative camp and creative campfire merch shop coming in NovemberInvite Shelly to speak to your group or be on your stageGot an idea you want to pitch us or collaborate on: Drop us an email: [email protected]#ArtisticValue #Muralist #PhoebeNelson #FinancialLiteracy #dontbeastarvingartist

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