Into the Vault

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Phoebe Judge 0:00
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Brene Brown 1:11
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Phoebe Judge 1:42
Robert Dusault was born in Lowell, Massachusetts in 1940. It wasn't uncommon at that time for a family to hold a wake in their home after someone had died. People would come to pay their respects. Growing up, Robert Dusault would attend these wakes in people's houses.
Tim White 2:00
He was an avid thief.
Phoebe Judge 2:03
When he got to a wake, he would go through the receiving line downstairs and then go upstairs and look through closets and drawers, taking whatever seemed valuable. His sister Dorothy would help him sell what he stole.
Tim White 2:15
You know, for DeSalt, it wasn't about the money. Reporter Tim White. I mean, the money was nice, I'm sure. But it was just about the score. It was about planning the robbery. It was about executing the crime. So he's always scheming. Always scheming. Oh, he can't help himself.
Phoebe Judge 2:39
He robbed pawn shops and shops that sold rare coins. He was caught after kicking down the glass doors of a clothing store and was arrested for fighting in a donut shop. He had 13 brothers and sisters. His brothers, Paul and Christopher, would plan robberies with him. They would follow delivery trucks. And when the driver left the vehicle, they'd steal everything they could. Robert Dussault was a sleepwalker, and when he was 15 years old, he fell 30 feet out of his third-floor bedroom window at 2 a.m. It made the front page of The Lowell Sun. His mother told police he'd been walking in his sleep since he was five years old. But at some point, Tim White says, Robert learned that the woman he'd known as his mother was actually his grandmother.
Tim White 3:28
He grew up in a large French-Canadian family, and who he thought was his oldest sister, he learned was actually his mother. And he was the last one to learn that. And after that, his entire world was rocked.
Phoebe Judge 3:48
He started spending more and more time with his best friend, Charles Flynn, who went by Chucky. And Robert Dussault went by Deuce. He got Deuce tattooed on his arm.
Tim White 4:00
He loved Chucky. Chucky loved Deuce. They were best friends. They were brothers. And they were brothers in crime. They ran a mini criminal organization together, wreaking havoc together, committing crimes. And that was really how Deuce grew up. He grew up with Chucky Flynn doing these bad things.
Phoebe Judge 4:22
Robert Dusselt was in and out of prison through his late teens and twenties. He was charged for things like larceny by check and convicted of assaulting a police officer.

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