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Chapter 1: What were the key moments in the Hawks vs. Suns match?
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Joel shovels it to Connor McDonald. On the left, 20 out. Yeah! Driving footy. Joel! Joel! Plays on around the body, kicks the goal. Dean Lewis, can't mark, it's loose at the front. Connor McDonald, snappy, going again. Inboard goes the kick, they bring it to ground again. Moore, kicks another one. Hawthorne had exploded and blown this game to smithereens. Hawthorne, fresh off the break.
come up to Gold Coast and surge back into the top four with an outstanding win.
You know, we had some trouble with some of their players, you know, you pick three, Jed Walter, and then Mac Andrews, who's picked five, and Noah Anderson, who's picked two. It's like, man, the amount of talent that these guys have got really curtailing them was important for us.
And they just, they've got so much talent on every line that making the most of those chances I thought was really important.
The Hawks enhance their standing with their first win on the Gold Coast in more than a decade, condemning the Suns to a fourth straight loss ahead of the toughest task in footy. He wanders on and pushes the kick across the face of goal where Jackson marks in front of the behind posts. Please, man. That's what I want to know. Hand pass to Holmes. Oh, that's a wild and loose hand pass.
Swietkowski onto it. Works it around to Erasmus. He'll kick the goal and the Dockers lead. It's out across the face of goal. Amos somehow or another has taken the mark. The Dockers are sneaking up on it. Amos snaps truly. He's got three and it's the settler the Dockers were looking for. The Dockers win their 13th straight
And they take their revenge on Geelong, the only team that had taken their number. The streak continues for Fremantle, fuelled by their unique weapon in the ruck. How far can the Dawkers take this rare winning sequence?
Here's an idea. Either focus on the game and get that sorted or sit there and open up trade period right now. Because at the end of the day, we're talking about it like as if it's happening all the time. It does mind. End of rant, Gerard. We'll worry about that as the season sort of gets a bit closer to the end.
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Chapter 2: How did Hawthorne secure their first win on the Gold Coast in over a decade?
Will Tim English be there next year? It would surprise me if he's there next year.
I'll scoop Lewis. It's like he's gone up and he's given us, he's come back with a half a scoop of vanilla. Is Lockie someone you'd like to... Absolutely. I think all the free agents we've targeted, you go, OK, they'd fit a need. Definitely, he'd be a great fit. So, Lockie, you're still listening, mate.
Come on, get on down. And a volatile week on the futures markets. Heightened speculation about player movement causes plenty of angst as the ripple effect of October proves unsettling in June. This is the Round 15 edition of Crunch Time. How are we all feeling about the offside rule this morning? Yeah, well, it wasn't a great day, was it?
Or selection? Yeah, it wasn't a coaching masterclass this week.
Crunch time for the all-new Ford Ranger Wolf Track V6 and Azzito brushless power tools. Built to work, Azzito, do you. Gerard Whateley with you. Cain Corns is with us from Adelaide Oval. Hello to you, Cain.
Oh, magnificent here, Gerard. Perfect football conditions, quite overcast, and the sort of day you wake up, Saturday, traditional slot, and love playing in these games. So we've got a ripper on our hands a little bit later on, but last night was interesting, wasn't it? I thought it was such a strong performance from Hawthorne.
I'm still trying to rack my brain over how Gold Coast could not score from a centre bounce when you've got the likes of those players in there. They were pretty good, but Hawthorne were better, and How much of a difference does Will Day make to that line-up?
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Chapter 3: What challenges did the Gold Coast Suns face during the game?
So looking forward to getting stuck into that with you guys this morning.
Adam Simpson, hello. Good morning, Gerard. Good morning, everyone out there. Bunnings, mowing the lawns, school sports, team sports. Good to be here. 13 in a row for the Dockers.
So this is rare air. Essendon 20, St Kilda 19 in 2000, 2009. Port Adelaide's 13 straight in 2023. And now Fremantle. 13's the threshold to sort of enter the grand streaks of the century.
And what's next? Do they start resting players, managing the team, looking at their style of play? They're coming off a bye. They look like, and they're so healthy, Joe. So they've played 30 players this year. So the least of anyone.
Chapter 4: How did the centre bounces impact the game's outcome?
And it was pretty much a full book. on Thursday night. And I just thought they're just winning in different ways too. And they're not winning every quarter. Every game seems to be a challenge. So it's not just a walk in the park for them. So they're finding a way. They're led really well on field. Their on-field leadership seems to be in really good order.
Kicking wasn't straight on the weekend, but outside of that, they had another complete game. They should have won that by... 40, 50 points in the end. So we'll talk about Geelong later, but it says a lot about their system and how it stands up at the moment.
Tom Morris rounds out our quartet. Hello, Tom. Hello, Gerard. Hello, Simo. Hello, Kane. Plenty of news to get through later on this morning, but the big news this morning, at least from an initial perspective, is Josh Weddle. He's facing a straight up and down three-week suspension from the MRO for his high bump on Daniel Rioli.
which has fractured the jaw of Daniel Rioli, who was in hospital last night. He had scans, and that's confirmed this morning as well. So you can expect that to be confirmed by the AFL later on today, that Weddle will get that three-week suspension.
So this is just the classic bump, strict liability, whatever happens, you're culpable for, and that's what happened.
It's really as simple as that. So that will be confirmed later on today, and then the Hawks will have to decide whether to challenge it, but I think that would be futile in this situation.
All right, let's dig into last night then. It was a really interesting game with lots of different talking points, ebbs and flows, seven straight goals for Hawthorne across the later stages of the first quarter and the earlier the second was the decisive element.
And we can't not talk about the centre bounces or centre ball ups. Is it centre bounce or centre ball ups? We're trying to get centre ball ups in, but everyone keeps reverting Kane back to centre bounces. But when you look at the nine shots to none from that area of the ground, you can't help but look at that part of the game. And I know...
Dimmer mentioned that post-game and Sam mentioned as well how they've done a lot of work in their bite period as well. But, you know, there's a lot of numbers that go in the sun's favour, Gerard. But at the moment, if they can't get that right, they can't progress. And that's the clearance just in general. Clearances have been poor.
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Chapter 5: What role did Will Day play in Hawthorne's performance?
It was a bit of talk about, you know, they're playing for individual awards and individual numbers and individual accolades. It feels a little bit like that. I'm not suggesting that like Matt Brow is a selfish player or anything like that, but it's a bit like they're in their own head to try and do it themselves. Like, no, Anderson last night was trying to do it
himself to the point where he even got a little bit too cute with a couple of his possessions. So maybe that's the mindset that they're at.
Chapter 6: What are the implications of player movement speculation for the Suns?
Bailey Humphrey's just trying to get himself back on track after the talk around him. Tuk Miller's a little bit the same. What's his role? He went to Newcombe early and I thought did a reasonable job in the first quarter before Newcombe was able to get himself going. So a whole bunch of individuals trying to do it themselves more so than the collective at the moment.
That's just the way that it looks a little bit to me. But Simo, just from a strategy point of view, the coaches have been hamstrung significantly in the last six, seven years with the... With the new 6-6-6. But you used to be able to do some things as a coach when numbers were going like that against you.
Like you could put a half forward off the back of the square and then you could blitz through and protect the front of the stoppage, which you're talking about. I remember I played a lot of wing later on in my career. You used to sprint in. Sprint in as a wingman and come around the back. Defensively. Now, I don't know, coach...
Is coaches just trying to be a bit, are they not as creative or is it the fact that the system just doesn't allow you to be? The wingmen just stand there now. They just stand. That's just the consensus that we're just going to hold our width and let our midfielders go one on one. That's great at the start, but if that's not working, do you think coaches could be a bit more creative?
I used to love that rule. I hated it when it came in. We used to call it shotgun off the back of the square. That was an attack.
move and it was like Jamie Cripps rip off the back mate try and flush one and rip through and equalise the forward line before you know it and because of the negative connotation around oh you can park the bus but it was such an offensive thing to do where you do your swivel your wing goes attacking your halfback goes to the wing and you do all these type of things around The strategy.
So we've adapted though. And the adaption now, it's become more strategic with the jumping Ruckman, Cain. So it used, last year was boring in the middle. It was just two Ruckman running into each other. It's going to go to the three one-on-ones and then whoever wins it, wins it. Now you can jump. you're going to win a hit out by an arm's length.
And that's when players are getting on the move and they're getting on the fly and they're running the risk of getting beaten the other way. But I think the Suns, the players underneath the Ruckman, like the one-on-one old school. Rao, he loves just going body-on-body, hit it to me and I'll get my craft done. Whereas now, he's got to get on the move. And Hawthorne adapted really well last night.
I think they've been struggling themselves to adapt to the new rules. But... So that's where the chess games played at the moment. Outside the square, that's boring. That's annoyingly boring, I think. I really enjoyed the old school stuff, but I can understand why, because now you're more vulnerable with momentum. You can't stop it. If you're getting beaten out of the middle...
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Chapter 7: How are coaching strategies affecting the Suns' performance?
So you said on the midfield coach, you just do the center bounces as well. So I don't know who ā and it's not on that particular coach, but it's his brief, Gerard. And from an accountability point of view, there'd be some conversations around why are we so bad at this and give me some options to get us better. So it's not a dimmer on his own thing.
It's a collective piece because there's also the backs cane. Why are they allowing these goals? Like the nine shots, it was five goals, four. You can lose extended clearances by eight and still ā have a good day. You know, it's harder these days, but you can defend well behind it as well. So a bit to work on. Yeah. Everything else around that's pretty good.
Like the numbers stack up okay, Kane, around the grounds.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting to their forward set-up in a tick, but their assistant coaching situation is thin. Like, if you just go off their website and tell me where to speak. But Sean Grigg, highly regarded. Drummond as well. Josh. But then there's a lot of... Brad Miller's their assistant forwards coach, and then there's a lot of development.
So, really, it's three coaches, which isn't a lot.
They found it hard to bring assistant coaches to the Gold Coast, just as Sydney have found it hard to bring assistant coaches to GWS, or the Giants have found it difficult because... They don't necessarily believe that people want to move away from their families for the sort of money that's available within the soft cap.
So I know that has been a tension point for the Golko sons as it has been for the Giants the last few years.
But the other parts, so they're plus 25 contested possessions last night. Even the expected score, which, you know, I don't really believe. I keep bringing it up, Gerard. I think you've brainwashed me. I don't actually really. I never looked at it once as a coach.
Every time you bring it up, you say, I don't really believe it. I know. I just can't help it. You're on board now, Simone.
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Chapter 8: What does the future hold for both teams after this match?
I don't know. I just think it's a bit of a shadow over them and the uncertainty that his future is creating around Walter and others. Yeah, I just... I think it's a problem for them. Tom, where does it sit and how is this developing this year?
Well, the uncertainty is very real, Cain, as we've spoken about for a number of weeks. There's about $7.5 million outstanding now that the Gold Coast Suns have offered Jed Walter and Ben King combined. So Jed Walters about 4.5 across five and Ben King is about three across two, a little bit less than three across two.
But Damien Hardwick, it took a while for Damien Hardwick to warm to Ben King as a player. And there's a reason why Collingwood weren't in the end all in on Ben King because they had the same feeling. So they would like to keep him. But I get the sense, Kane and Simone Gerrard, that what you're saying about Ben King is
is a bit what the Gold Coast Suns think, that they would like to keep him in a perfect world. But more than that, they'd like to know so that they can lock in Jed Walter and organise what else they're going to do. Because there's no indication at the moment that he's going to sign.
So that's the Gold Coast point of view. And then there's the Hawthorne point of view. Do you want the four that they've got, Gunston, Choll, Lewis and Deer? Because you're going to lose one of those if King comes in and I suspect it's Mitch Lewis. Might be Deer. Might be Deer.
Gunston's 35 years old.
Yeah, I understand.
They need to start planning for the future.
But you've still got three that play, I guess, a similar role to... Gunston's a fraction different, and they've got Hardwick that can play that role if Gunston can't get himself going.
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