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Episode 162: A Managed Approach to a Managed Attack Surface

19 Nov 2025

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In Episode 162 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Tony Sager sits down with Tina Williams-Koroma, Founder and CEO of TCecure, LLC and CyDeploy, Inc. Together, they discuss why "cyber insecurity is not inevitable" and how organizations can take a managed approach to attack surface management.Along the way, Tina shares her journey from software development to cybersecurity entrepreneurship and explains why proactive measures like hardening systems and automating patching are critical for reducing risk. Here are some highlights from our episode:00:50. Introductions to Tina, her career pivot, and her entrepreneurial path03:35. The value of the secure configuration guidance provided by the CIS Benchmarks®07:35. Why a well-managed system makes for a hard target11:00. Marketing against “magic” in a hype-driven cybersecurity market13:44. The translative work of moving well-managed infrastructure beyond "mere hygiene"19:14. Tina's faith-based inspiration for helping others get as far as she's gotten27:23. Soccer analogies for a managed attack surface33:54. Tina's pep talk: "Why cyber insecurity is not inevitable"38:38. Free cybersecurity resources for small businessesResourcesMapping and Compliance with the CIS BenchmarksGuide to Asset Classes: CIS Critical Security Controls v8.1Gartner Says That in the Age of GenAI, Preemptive Capabilities, Not Detection and Response, Are the Future of CybersecurityCIS Community Defense Model 2.0OwlThis — Powered By CyDeployIf you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing [email protected].

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