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#351 - Top DNA Expert: New Breakaway Species of Human is Evolving in Indonesia | Dr. Melissa Ilardo

24 Nov 2025

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Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Dr. Melissa Ilardo, Ph.D is a professor of evolutionary genomics and biomedical informatics at the University of Utah. Her research explores human evolution and adaptation in populations that have previously been overlooked or excluded from biological research. Her recent work looks into a population who engages in the practice of breath-hold diving & is evolving on a unique breakaway trajectory from the rest of homo sapiens on earth. SPONSORS https://hellofresh.com/danny10fm - Get 10 Free Meals + a Free breakfast for Life! https://cell.ver.so/danny - Use code DANNY to save 15% on your first order. https://butcherbox.com/danny - Get free steak in every box for a year PLUS $20 off your first box. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off EPISODE LINKS https://medicine.utah.edu/faculty/melissa-ilardo https://www.superhumanlab.org https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/19/science/bajau-evolution-ocean-diving.html https://www.instagram.com/superhumanscilab https://linkedin.com/in/melissa-ilardo FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Genomic evolution of Baju people (sea nomads) 15:00 - How long Baju can hold their breath for 21:19 - All-female Korean free divers (Haenyeo) 32:17 - Lost species of humans 42:44 - Humans won't survive the next 100,000 years 47:50 - Mother of humanity: The real "Eve" 59:48 - Humans are attracted to mates by pheromones 01:06:30 - Why assisted reproductive technology might be harmful to evolution 01:14:57 - Effects of the global population mixing & mating together 01:21:37 - Risks of CRISPR gene editing 01:30:37 - Lifespan & the grandmother hypothesis 01:37:18 - Evolution of un-contacted indigenous tribes 01:40:50 - What future humans will look like 01:49:08 - Intelligence is not genetic Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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