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Daring Creativity

Dare to find radical empathy for the people around you - Murugiah

10 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

9.329 - 34.954 Murugiah

I've had this opportunity in the new exhibition to explore some sculptural works. Now I'm thinking, follow the fun. I had a lot of fun on these sculptural works. Paintings are a joy to make. They've become part of what I do, so I can just keep doing them now. What can I add on top? And it's not about growing in that ego way. It's more fun to me to explore things three-dimensionally next.

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You're turning these, slowly and slowly, these characters are coming from the 2D digital screen into a more tactile, painterly way, into a more three-dimensional way. What happens next is clearly there's animation, there's 3D animation, there's live-action film. Eventually, I will become a filmmaker. It's what you want to hear out of. At some point, I will make a live action film. Who knows?

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We'll see.

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Chapter 2: How did Murugiah transition from digital to acrylic painting?

68.813 - 90.186 Radim Malinic

Welcome to the Daring Creativity Podcast, a show about daring to forever explore creativity that isn't about chasing shiny perfection. It's about showing up with all your doubts and imperfections and making them count. It's about becoming more of who you already are. My name is Radim Malinic. I'm a designer, author, and eternally curious human being.

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I am talking to a broad range of guests who share their stories of small actions that sparked lifetime discoveries, taking one step towards the thing that made them feel most alive. Let me begin this episode with a question. Are you ready to discover what happens when you dare to create?

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There are artists who chase opportunity and then there are artists who simply do the work so honestly, so personally and so completely that the opportunity has no choice but to find them. My guest today is Murugaya, a London-based multidisciplinary artist trained in architecture, working across illustration, fine art and design.

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He's been developing a new body of work, acrylic paintings that fuse his iconic digital aesthetic with something far more emotionally raw, rooted in his Sri Lankan heritage and shaped by years of deliberate, unhurried craft. In this conversation, we talk about following the fun, the danger of chasing reward and why the most personal thing you can make is always the most powerful.

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It's my pleasure to share with you my conversation with Murugaya. Hey Murugai, it's so great to see you again. Welcome back to Daring Creativity.

Chapter 3: What role does patience play in the creative process?

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Hi Radim, thank you so much for having me back. You are one of the elite club of returning guests that had to come back. There's so much that you're doing right now, so much that you're pushing on so many different fronts. In personifying, embodying the concept of daring creativity, I'm excited to talk to you today because...

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You got something to reveal that I think is quite important and a pivotal moment in your career so far. So let's talk about it. But if someone didn't listen to one of my first episodes of second season, who's Murugaya? Who are you? How would you introduce yourself?

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For new listeners of our conversation, my name is Murugaya and I'm a multidisciplinary artist living and working in London. trained in architecture, and I work in illustration, fine art, design, and generally being a creative person.

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You see, as you said, for the new listeners of our conversation, in our previous conversation, we covered almost your journey from the beginning to now, or what was now then. And now I think we're going to cover now to the future.

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Yeah.

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Because I would like you to reveal, what have you been working on since?

Chapter 4: How does radical empathy influence artistic expression?

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Obviously, since I haven't seen you podcast-wise, I've seen you in person, but you've been working on something so important that I wanted to talk about it. What goes into such projects?

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When did we last speak? What year did we last speak? 24? 24. At the tail end of 2023, beginning of 2024, by this point, I had been making... work with a new aesthetical influence from the years of 2019 up to 2023. I used the pandemic to create a new art style with the wealth of experience I'd gained from transitioning from architecture to illustration and art in 2012.

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So 2012 to 2019, wealth of experience, developing a what I liked, what I didn't like. And then when the pandemic hit in 2019, I developed a new art style. And that took me up to our conversation, 2023, beginning of 24. And in that time, because I had spent the last 2019 to 2023 developing the aesthetics of this style, this new style, influenced by my Sri Lankan heritage, my Western upbringing,

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I started to think I wanted to get more thematics in place.

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Chapter 5: What was the significance of Murugiah's debut solo exhibition?

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I wanted to talk more emotionally and personally about the work. And to do that, I started to also move into analog production. I wanted to make acrylic paintings, trying to replicate my clean lines in flat colors of my digital aesthetic and try and see what I could do, what I could add with an acrylic painting.

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So I was doing a lot of things here, wanting to speak very personally and emotionally with each piece. And I wanted to see what I could do with acrylic painting. What kind of things could I add? So really trying to make something more personal at this time. And I started making small A2 paintings of very specific ideas. An early one was called Myopic, and it was one of my characters.

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surrounded by vines. And as you pan up towards the painting, you see these brightly colored flowers and faces. And it was a piece about not being able to see the wood through the trees. And if you could climb up those vines and climb above those brightly colored faces and flowers, your mind would be clear. So I was trying to make a piece like this, which took a bit longer.

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So that would be the theme of the painting.

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Chapter 6: How can artists create opportunities for themselves?

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The aesthetics moving to acrylic painting, I wanted to create something that was tangible, a little bit more textured, in addition to my bright colors and bright flat colors. So the way I did that was... I do a digital drawing. I transfer it onto a thick, heavy stock watercolor paper with red ink, because red ink is more forgiving when you paint.

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Then, before applying these flat colors, I decided to do these acrylic drip texture washes. And I would drip this acrylic wash over the painting, over this transferred drawing onto this paper. And I would move the canvas around, or the paper around, and allow these drips to move across to create this textured background that only a human being could do. This is a physical...

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act of moving the paint around so that it drips in only ways that I can decipher and determine. Then I would fill in my colors on top. So then you have this tangibly made, emotionally presented image. And then when I shared that on social media, I started my description of each piece with ever feel like, and then I went into the description of the piece.

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Ever feel like you can't see the woods through the trees. And then I would go on a little bit and then I would title the piece and present it. I would do that a few times.

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Chapter 7: What challenges does Murugiah face with imposter syndrome?

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I did that over the course of, after we spoke, over the course of 2024. Oh, there's a cat. I would do that quite a few times. And then in early March of 2024, I contacted the Quentin Blake Center for Illustration. I had seen that they were developing a new center for illustration, a new museum gallery space. And on that site, and there's the main building, there's this very long building.

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On that site was a small windmill space, which they described as potentially a space for activations and small activities. And I had contacted the center saying, oh, I've just started making these paintings. I've got this body of work, but I've just started making these small paintings in A2. It's a cylindrical building. I'd love to exhibit them in this cylindrical building as a series.

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And one conversation led to another. And many months later, they came back and they said, look, about that small windmill space and your series of paintings, instead of doing that, would you like to open the new center with a debut solo exhibition of your entire body of work that you've developed from 2019 to now?

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Chapter 8: What insights does Murugiah have about the future of his work?

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You made me think of so many things because I start these conversations with a blank piece of paper. I listen to what you've got to say and find some dots that I want to join. And ever feel like it feels... like a sign of times. Because what you did, you have created your own opportunity.

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The more I think about of what we do and how we do it, especially in now in 2026, to sit back and relax and wait for the world to show up on your doorstep is not going to happen. and creating your own inroads and your pathways and actually saying, hey, I want to be there, it's half of the conversation already not filled in. So what I want to know, what did it feel like?

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Because I'm going to ask you about the transition from the digital into acrylic and physical and how did you get to it? But I'm going to ask you that question later because I want to know about your hopes and your expectations from this email that you send off and say, I'm making small A2. A2 is not small. A2. 82 pieces, and then you present, obviously you proposed it. What was that feel like?

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Did you leave that email at that time? Were you hopeful? What was your expectations? That's what I want to know first.

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I had no real expectations. I was just very happy and content with these pieces I was making. They felt truly personal to me. The work I was making from 2019 up to 2023 was about developing a visual aesthetic, but it didn't really... have this very core emotional thing that I'm obsessed with, this connecting with your feelings, this sensitivity. I wasn't ready to put it in the work at that point.

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It was very much about describe or present a visual aesthetic of bright colors, busy compositions, influenced by South Asian culture and Western upbringing. But now it's time to...

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just turn the dial up a little bit more and add this emotional heft to each piece so personally i just felt very confident in presenting those ideas so i thought it was the right time to speak to someone about it and see if i could share them with somebody and luckily very luckily they responded in a big way

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This is the cure for anyone who really feels like that one email is putting all your money on 32 Black, because you were in motion. This is an add-on to what you've been describing, because if you're in transit, if you're developing, if you're looking at that emotional heft in your work, that's your main thought process. That's your main activity. And doing this is like an antidote.

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