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A woman allegedly kills her fifth husband. A hookah bar owner on trial again. Plus, a Dateline LIVE preview
25 Sep 2025
Chapter 1: What are the details of the Texas woman accused of poisoning her fifth husband?
Olipa kerran hyvä haltija, joka loihti taikasauvallaan herkullisen jouluaterian kaikille metsän asukeille. Siinä oli tarjolla jos jonkin maista herkkua. Oli rosollia, silakkaa, kinkkua, laatikoita, graavattua lohtaja... Jaha, juu, tämähän ei ollutkaan joulusatu. Tämähän olikin ostoslista. Ja se on pitkä. No, onneksi kaikki ainekset herkulliseen jouluun saat. S-Marketista. Joulu on ruokaa. S-Market.
Kiitos kun katsoit! Hei kaverit, olen Blaine. Tervetuloa Dateline True Crime Weeklyin. Minä olen Andrea Canning. Tämä on 25. septembrilta ja tässä on se, mitä meillä on. Kaliforniassa, jossa on jo melkein 14 vuotta syrjinnässä, on syrjintä, joka on syrjintä, joka on syrjintä, joka on syrjintä, joka on syrjintä, joka on syrjintä.
Yhdysvallan jäsen sanoo, että järjestö välttää evidensi kohdalla. Dateline Roundupissa jäsen tekee kriittisen luvun rukouksessa Gilgo Beachin syrjäilijän Rex Huermanin kanssa. Karen Reed on takaisin kohdalla, tämän kerran sivuiltaan. Barry Morphew, johon hänen isänsä murhauksessaan kertoi toista kertaa, saa isoja uutisia. Barry Morphew jätettiin uudestaan 3 miljoonaa rukouksesta.
Plus I'm joined by my fellow Dateline correspondents. We'll be in Nashville this week for our first ever Dateline live event. And we're going to give you a sneak preview. Everybody getting together will be a wonderful thing. Before all that, we're heading to a courthouse in Chambers County, Texas, where a woman accused of poisoning her fifth husband is heading to trial.
7.1.2023 Sarah Hartsfield kertoi 9-1-1 pannuksella kotiin Beach Cityin, Texasissa. Hän kertoi tutkijoille, että hänen diabeten isänsä, Joseph, on kärsinyt syrjintänä syrjinnänä.
Paramedikset raskasivat Josefa huoneeseen, jossa lääkärit huomasivat jotain erilaista. Hänen lääkärinsä ei näyttänyt sopimukseen, jota Sarah kertoi heille. Lääkäri kertoi poliisille, että Josefa oli poistunut. Viikkoja myöhemmin hän oli syntynyt. Lääkäri alkoi katsoa Sarahia paremmin ja hieman oppi, että hän ei ollut mitään yksilöitä poliisilta.
Vuonna 2018 hän tuli poliisilta syrjittämällä syrjittämällä syrjittelijään. Hän sanoi, että hän tuli häntä itsevastaisuudessaan. Vuonna 2021 hänen vanhempansa huomioi häntä syrjittämällä uuden tyyppiä, jota Sarah kääntää. Mutta Sarah oli enää enää enää enää enää enää enää enää.
Dateline Field producer Rachel White, who has crossed the country investigating Sarah's case, is here to bring us up to speed. Hey, Rachel. Hi, Andrea. Rachel, to start, tell us about Sarah and Joseph's relationship.
Kyllä. He olivat syntyneet hyvin nopeasti. He olivat olleet yhdessä vain noin kolme kuukautta, ja se on tapahtunut vuoden 2022. Oliko niissä mitään tunteita, että yhteisö oli ongelmassa? Kyllä. Ystävä, josta puhuttiin, kertoi joitain viestejä, joita hän kertoi Sarahin takaisin. Yhdellä päivällä, ennen kuin Joseph tappasi, Sarah kertoi hänet nukkumaan. Hän kertoi myös samaan ystäväksi, että hän suunnitteli loppua yhteisöön.
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Chapter 2: What is the background of the California hookah lounge owner on trial?
Se on oikeastaan. Rachel, as part of Datelines reporting on Sarah, you spoke with some husbands, a former boyfriend. What did you learn? Yeah, so many of the men felt that they were in danger leading up to the end of those relationships. It doesn't seem like she had many cordial breakups before.
One of Sarah's ex-boyfriends alleges that after breaking up, his home went up in flames. Investigators ruled that the fire was caused by faulty wiring. And her third husband, a man named Christopher Donahue, claimed that Sarah and her fourth husband were plotting to kill Christopher's new wife. And this was all according to an affidavit in support of a request for a restraining order. And we should mention that Sarah told Dateline she denied plotting to kill Christopher's new wife.
Mutta kerro meille hieman lisää hänen vanhempansa Racheleista. Hänen nimensä oli David Bragg. Olemme oppineet, että Sarah kertoi tutkijoille, että hän ja David olisivat vastaamassa. Ja tämän päivän ajan hän kertoi, että hän meni takaisin kaupungin kaupungille ja David soitti hänelle rauhaa. Hän oli saanut hänelle kaksi rauhaa kaupungille ja hän kertoi, että hän tappoi itsevaiheessa, tappamassa ja tappamassa Davidia. Aluksi Daviden kuolema oli tutkittu homoseksuaaliin, mutta ei ollut koskaan kriittisiä lakia Sarahin kanssa.
In fact, investigators who examined the scene said that the evidence was consistent with her story, right Rachel? They did, and witnesses even provided statements that seemed to support Sarah's story. And in January of 2019, the county attorney announced that Sarah was justified in firing at Bragg in self-defense.
After Sarah was indicted for the murder of Joseph Hartsfield, investigators announced they were going to reopen their investigation into her former fiancé's death. Yeah, so they've reopened it and are looking into it again. We don't really know the status of it or where it stands at this moment. So Sarah Hartsfield is set to go to trial in Texas for the murder of Joseph Hartsfield next week. And the big question here, will prosecutors bring up Sarah's past and are they allowed to bring up her past?
I think that's definitely in the cards. So jury selection expected to start September 29th. Rachel, any insight into who will be testifying, if Sarah herself will take the stand? I'm not sure if Sarah will take the stand, but I would imagine that her ex-husbands will be called, that her kids will be called to testify. I think that for her family, her kids, it's going to be a very emotional trial and one that I'm sure they're looking forward to putting behind them.
Wild story Rachel. Look forward to hearing more about this one. Thank you so much for bringing us this complicated story. Thank you for having me. Coming up, a California man accused of murdering his girlfriend gets a new trial. We'll tell you about the security video at the heart of the case.
Olipa kerran hyvä haltija, joka loihti taikasauvallaan herkullisen jouluaterian kaikille metsän asukeille. Siinä oli tarjolla jos jonkin maista herkkua. Oli rosollia, silakkaa, kinkkua, laatikoita, graavattua lohtaja... Jaha, juu, tämähän ei ollutkaan joulusatu. Tämähän olikin ostoslista. Ja se on pitkä. No, onneksi kaikki ainekset herkulliseen jouluun saat. S-Marketista. Joulu on ruokaa. S-Market.
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Chapter 3: How is the Karen Reed case evolving after her murder trial?
After Jennifer's body was found, investigators went pretty quickly to arson and then to murder, right? Right. When firefighters and investigators entered that home, they were struck by the overwhelming smell of gasoline. And they also located a gasoline can next to Jennifer's body. So that was enough for them to determine this fire was likely set intentionally. Then when the autopsy results came back, Jennifer actually had died hours before the fire was set. Her cause of death? Strangulation.
Once authorities determined this was a homicide, what made them zero in on Paul? In his interview with police, Paul actually mentioned that. After that incident, Paul was ordered by a judge to attend anger management classes. Even though the relationship was rocky the night before the fire, Jennifer...
Through Paul a party. That's right. Based on the photos that we've seen, it looked like a beautiful celebration with cake and everyone was having a great time. But apparently later that night, the two had gotten in a fight and Jennifer went home alone. And they exchanged these like angry text messages. Paul told police when he went home, they actually made up. But text messages continued the following morning and showed that the couple began to argue again. And things really escalated to a point where Jennifer threatened to file charges against Paul.
All right, so we fast forward to trial in 2011, and prosecutors present all this evidence against Paul. What was his defense? Well, Paul actually hired famous attorney Mark Garagos, who you may have heard of. I just interviewed him for the Arkham special. Exactly, so they had a great defense team, and Paul actually took the stand in his own defense. He said it's true that him and Jennifer did have a volatile relationship, but he didn't kill her.
He also said he had a strong alibi, and he said he was at his hookah lounge the time the fire was set, and there are security videos to support this. The jury didn't believe him, so he was convicted and sentenced to 33 years. So Brittany, this is where this big twist comes in. More than 14 years later, Paul Zumott is now back in court for a new trial. How did his team convince the judge?
Paul maintained his innocence over the years. His defense team has submitted various petitions. All were rejected until 2020, when his petition finally made it to federal court. Paul argued he should either be released or retried based on the inclusion of false evidence in his first trial, and the federal judge agreed.
What false evidence are they referring to? There were two major pieces. First was that security camera footage that shows Paul at his hookah lounge. Remember Paul's alibi was that he was at his hookah lounge, therefore could not have committed the crime. The fire was first reported at their house at 6.39pm by a passerby.
Järjestelmä käytti turvallisuuden videota Paulin hookah-shopista, jossa Pauli tuli loungaan 6.47. Pauli oli 8 minuuttia, kun hän tuli loungaan 6.47. Pauli oli 8 minuuttia, kun hän tuli loungaan 6.47.
which shows Paul arriving at his shop as early as 6.45 p.m., making this window to start the fire much, much tighter, six minutes instead of eight. Though I've heard this video is quite grainy, and it's hard to make out who is in the video. The federal judge says the prosecution misrepresented the evidence at trial, and he also found Garagos did not do his client any favors by failing to adequately review the security footage. Okay, and you said there's more, right? Yeah.
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Chapter 4: What updates are there on the Rex Heuermann case and its implications?
Plus we've got my fellow correspondents to talk about the Dateline live event in Nashville this weekend. Olipa kerran hyvä haltija, joka loihti taikasauvallaan herkullisen jouluaterian kaikille metsän asukeille.
Siinä oli tarjolla jos jonkinmoista herkkua. Oli joulutorttua, vihreitä kuulia, piparia ja... Jaha. Joo, tämähän ei ollutkaan joulusatu. Tämähän olikin ostoslista. Ja se on pitkä. No, onneksi kaikki ainekset herkulliseen jouluun saat. S-Marketista. Joulu on ruokaa. S-Market.
Where was she? The disappearance of Carrie Farmer was quite unlike any other. Because Carrie hadn't exactly vanished, but retreated beyond the shadows to release rage in torrents of text messages. And it just went on and on and on. Beyond diabolical, beyond the macabre, to murder. A story straight out of left field. You're on edge as to what's going to happen next.
I'm Keith Morrison, and this is Something About Carrie, an all-new podcast from Dateline. Listen to all episodes now, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. Joining me for this week's roundup is Dateline producer Mario Garcia. Welcome back to the show, Mario. Thanks for having me, Andrea.
All right. For our first story, we're headed to Long Island to a story that you and I both know well. There was a major hearing on Tuesday in the case of alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Huerman. He has pleaded not guilty to the murders of seven women. Maria, what's the news out of this latest hearing? Last time you were on the podcast, we talked about DNA and how critical it is to this entire case.
Se on oikeastaan se, Andrea, ja se on oikeastaan se, mitä me taistelimme taas uudestaan. Tämän keskustelun jälkeen olemme tietoineet, että lainsäädäntö järjestäisiin muutaman valintamotion. Yksi oli DNA-valintamotio, joka oli perustuvaa terveydenhallinnasta, koska DNA-valintamalli, jonka tutkimus oli tehty, ei ole valittu New Yorkissa. Järjestäjä on valittanut tämän valintamotion, joten nyt tiedämme, että kaikki DNA-valintamalli on valitettavissa tämän kohdalla.
Okay, and you also found out that there is a lot of discovery documentation to go through. You're right, Andrea. It was revealed by district attorney Ray Tierney that they've turned over 120 terabytes of information. So for math nerds out there, there's one estimate that says one terabyte of information is approximately 6.5 million pages if you print them out as Word documents.
Is that going to affect possibly a trial date? Where are we at with that? We thought we might get a trial date on Tuesday, and we did not. In fact, the defense said because there's so much information to go through, they know that they will be filing more motions, and the judge allowed them until January 13th of next year to get those motions filed.
We know how hard this is on families when these pretrial hearings and all of it just keep dragging on and on. Do we know how they're doing? You know, it's difficult for everybody. It's difficult for the families of the victims. And let's not forget, it's difficult for... Rex Herman had a wife and children, and they were there yesterday. We stood in very close proximity in line waiting to get in. And the lawyer for his ex-wife, Esa Allerup, spoke outside the courtroom on Tuesday, and we recorded some of what he had to say.
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Chapter 5: What can we expect from the upcoming Dateline LIVE event in Nashville?
That's right. And the list is long. She plans on suing members of the Massachusetts State Police, including Michael Proctor. You'll remember he's the officer who was fired for sending disparaging texts about Karen to other officers. But this lawsuit also claims her civil rights were violated by those messages and claims that there was a broader conspiracy against her headed by Proctor.
She also plans on suing both the McCabe and Albert families. Dateline listeners will remember that the Alberts house is where Karen said she dropped John O'Keefe off for a party the night of his death. And we should say that the McCabes and the Alberts have denied any wrongdoing. This is really incredible, Mario, how this saga continues. On and on and on. Thank you so much for bringing us all these stories today. Happy to help, Andrea.
For our final segment this week, I have the special treat of chatting with my fellow Dateline correspondents about something very exciting happening in just a few days. This Sunday, September 28th, we'll all be together in Nashville to present the first ever Dateline live event. Thank you for joining me, everyone. I see Blaine, I see Dennis, I see Keith, I see Lester.
Hello, hello. And I should say, we are sadly missing our friend Josh Mankiewicz today. He's probably off shopping for a cowboy hat, some cowboy boots, maybe a, I don't know, you know, a pocket square. Somebody put him in jail overnight. He'll be out in a couple of days. What kind of pocket square could he wear for Nashville, guys? I think it's like a blue denim, right?
Kyllä, se olisi hyvä. Okei, puhumme datelineen live. Yksi asia, jota olen odotellut, on se, että puhumme jonkinlaisia tunteita, ihmisiä, jotka ovat itse asiassa olleet datelineella. Keith, sinä olet puhunut jonkun, jonka dateline-fansit ovat todennäköisesti melko tunteita. Luulen, että olen puhunut Colbya.
Hän oli Lori Vallowin isä. Lori Vallow oli tietenkin minun keskellä siitä todella horiittisesta asiaa, joka liittyy hänen lapsensa. Ja Colby oli se, joka ei tiedä, mitä tapahtui, ja hän oli saapunut juuri sen keskellä.
That's going to be very interesting. And we're going to talk to some experts. Blaine, you and Josh are going to do something really exciting and talk to an investigator and a detective. I am really looking forward to that conversation, Andrea. So we're going to talk to them about some of the different tools and techniques that they use to crack the cases, which of course is very interesting to all of us as we report our stories. So lots of questions for them about what they do when they hit a dead end, when cases go cold, how they can try and revive that investigation.
Hienoa. Ja Lester, sinä kertoisit yksilöstäni jotain, jota uskon, että olisin todella huono, ja olisin pysynyt huonosti näkökulmasta. Kyllä, kuinka hyvin me muistamme asioita. Ja se on kaikenlaisia tarinoita, joita olemme tehneet Datelinein vuosina, joissa he pysyvät johonkin, johon he sanoivat, että olen todella nähnyt hänet, ja se on se kaveri, joka on siellä galleriin.
Joten tässä tapauksessa puhumme yksilöstä näiden näkökulmien vahvistuksen vahvistuksen vahvistuksen vahvistuksen vahvistuksen vahvistuksen vahvistuksen vahvistuksen vahvistuksen vahvistuksen vahvistuksen
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Chapter 6: How does the podcast discuss the impact of evidence in criminal trials?
And I agree with everything all of you just said. That's my answer. Easy answer. We are looking forward to seeing everyone there. And if you haven't got your tickets yet, there are still some available at datelinenbc.com forward slash event. You can also find a link in the description of this episode.
Thank you guys so much for coming on the podcast. I can't believe I'm going to be seeing you in a few days. This is so great. Can't wait. See you all there. You guys take care. Travel safe. Lester, bring your bass. Yeehaw. Se on kaikki tästä datalähtöisestä datalähtöisestä datalähtöisestä datalähtöisestä datalähtöisestä datalähtöisestä.
Watch The Phantom this Friday at 9, 8 central on NBC. Thanks for listening. Dateline True Crime Weekly is produced by Carson Cummins and Katie Ferguson. Our associate producer is Caroline Casey. Our senior producer is Liz Brown-Kurloff. Veronica Mazeka is our digital producer. Rick Kwan is our sound designer. Original music by Jesse McGinty. Bryson Barnes is head of audio production. Paul Ryan is executive producer. And Liz Kohl is senior executive producer of Dateline.
Olipa kerran hyvä haltija, joka loihti taikasauvallaan herkullisen jouluaterian kaikille metsän asukeille. Siinä oli tarjolla jos jonkinmoista herkkua. Oli rosollia, silakkaa, kinkkua, laatikoita, graavattua lohtaja...
Jaha. Joo, tämähän ei ollutkaan joulusatu. Tämähän olikin ostoslista. Ja se on pitkä. No, onneksi kaikki ainekset herkulliseen jouluun saat. S-Marketista. Joulu on ruokaa. S-Market.
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